Recent national survey - Page 2

BillyBob · #11 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ixtellor

We are not at war.

Tell that to our troops fighting in Iraq.

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Only Congress can declare war.

They did.

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This is Bush's private police action.

Ridiculous.

BillyBob · #12 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chainyanker

A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey found 27% of those polled nationwide approve of the Republican Party and the Bush administration. This tells me that about 73% of the people in this country are incapable of critical thinking. They only know 'what' to think not 'how' to think.

I fixed it for ya.

TheChief · #13 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chainyanker

A recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey found 27% of those polled nationwide approve of the Republican Party and the Bush administration. This tells me that about 27% of the people in this country are incapable of critical thinking. They only know 'what' to think not 'how' to think. The 'what' is slurped up from the trough of fear mongering and ignorance spewed out from the likes of 'No Doubt' Cheney...neocon pablum. A recent example being the disillusioned 'Iraq is a tremendous success!' declaration from Mr. 'No Doubt.' as in 'There is No Doubt Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.') Let's look at some current observations:

*whiny liberal crap*

You failed before the first sentence finished..

BuckNaked · #14 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 08:56 AM

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Was Bush lying?

If he was you can't prove he actually knew it was a lie so according to neo-con dictionary that means he didn't lie!

Example;

Bush said he remembered watching the first plane hit the first tower, live on TV, and said to himself, since he was a pilot during Vietnam, that guy is a terrible pilot!

Clinton said she arrived in Bosnia under sniper fire and they had to dodge bullets to get to their cars!

Who lied?

dum, dum, dumdum, dum, dum, dum. Dum, dum, dum, dum, duuummm, dumdumdumdumdum...

Times up! OK who lied?

A. Bush lied!
B. Clinton lied!
C. They both lied!
D. Zzzzzzzzzz!

BuckNaked · #15 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 09:01 AM

We are at war, we just don't have a plan! We don't have a song either? We got lots of silly slogans just no plan!

Support the troop and get somebody in there who doesn't have a conflict of interest, from the war on profit, we "are" in!

Ixtellor · #16 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Anikdote

Congress voted for the use of force in Iraq. With this legislation, the congress declared war.

I like how you didn't post the legislation, just the rollcall.
He was given 4 scenarios to use the armed forces.
3 of them regard security council resolutions
1 is to defend the US against Iraq.

The security council specifically said dont' invade.
Iraq did not attack the US, nor did it have the capacity to attack the US, hence, there was nothing to defend against.

Furthermore, this was not a declaration of War. Hence my Original point that we are NOT AT WAR , is 100% true.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=hj107-114

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Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 - Expresses support for the President's efforts to: (1) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq; and (2) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion, and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.
Authorizes the President to use the U.S. armed forces to: (1) defend U.S. national security against the continuing threat posed by Iraq; and (2) enforce all relevant Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq. Directs the President, prior to or as soon as possible (but no later than 48 hours) after exercising such authority, to make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that: (1) reliance on further diplomatic or peaceful means alone will not achieve the above purposes; and (2) acting pursuant to this joint resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization for use of the armed forces, consistent with requirements of the War Powers Resolution

Anikdote · #17 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ixtellor

I like how you didn't post the legislation, just the rollcall.

It's been posted so many times, in so many other threads that i decided to omit the redundancy.

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The security council specifically said dont' invade.

We don't require the authorization of the security council to take action. We are a sovereign nation.

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Furthermore, this was not a declaration of War. Hence my Original point that we are NOT AT WAR , is 100% true.

The authorization to use force against another nation is a declaration of war.

geezeezee · #18 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 01:32 PM

You guys are entertaining for about 30 seconds…
You guys are so busy fighting invisible alligators that you forgot to check if the swamp is real or invisible too…

Which of you can answer from firsthand experience:
– What's the President doing today?
– What's the President doing tomorrow?
– What's going on at the Pentagon now? Who's doing it?
– What's your governor doing today?
– What's your state legislature doing?

Can't answer can you. That's how little you know. And extrapolate that out to all similar questions including what each of your family members is doing right now and you won't know that either.

Same questions for each of the last 30 days… you can't answer those either.

The only way you can have these political conversations is by regurgitating a pitifully small number of partial "facts" and then editorializing wildly on them.

How about these questions:

– What are you doing right now?
– What are you going to do tomorrow?
– Why are you doing what you are doing?

The first you probably know. The second you can only guess. The third, if you really ask it, will keep you busy thinking for the rest of your life.

Which set of questions is more important the first or the second?

If you think the second, I would like to talk more to you…

BuckNaked · #19 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 01:36 PM

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The first you probably know. The second you can only guess. The third, if you really ask it, will keep you busy thinking for the rest of your life.

Which set of questions is more important the first or the second?

If you think the second, I would like to talk more to you…

Who let the sofa shrink in?

Anikdote · #20 (**permalink**) 05-15-2008, 01:39 PM

I've been e-analyzed.

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