So if you knew that all of us didnt truly know what was going on, and consider us foolish for debating things on here....

Why in the world did you bother to create an account and get on here in the first place??

I mean come on Will Hunting, I was half expecting a "how about them apples" type of B.S. speech from you.

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"The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments"

--George Washington

"Never spend your money before you have earned it."

--Thomas Jefferson

"One man with courage is a majority."

--Thomas Jefferson

Try to guess which one the security council is.
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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.

Lol. Have you met the average voter? I'd say less than a tenth of a percent of them even care, and a tenth of that actually go out and find out, and three fourths of those people probably work for him personally or plan to meet him that day. A person like you is in such a small minority that even if everyone in the world did figure this stuff out they would still not pick your side of the argument simply because you're soooo weird. What's more, you're not even convincing anyone of your ideologies, so you're pretty much wasting your time, our time, and talking about things that nobody cares about and saying things that will never get done. In the end, your fury will signify nothing, like the rest of you.

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So your logic is that if we are not there, the number will go down... That makes perfect sense... not.

You seem unable to handle the truth. You say ' whiney liberal crap' to 11 facts. Are you so ignorant as to think that these facts are 'liberal crap'? Here's 5 of them again, if you really think these facts are liberal crap you are either unbelievably ignorant or like many neocons, to wimpy to be able to handle the truth...which is it?

1) As of today 4076 American soldiers have been killed in Iraq (increasing death rate in recent weeks).

2) More than 29,000 have been wounded, with thousands suffering horrific injuries (did you see the news clip of the surviving soldier with nearly half his skull gone?)

3) The monthly cost of the Iraq war is around $12.5 billion a month according to a new book published by Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz and co-writer Linda Bilmes with total cost estimated at $3 trillion if troops don't leave completely before 2017. ('$30-40 billion tops' and '60 - 90 day cakewalk' --- 'Donald Duck' Rumsfeld in 2003)

4) Somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 Iraqis have been killed since the invasion.
(so much for pro-life beliefs)

5) More than 4 million Iraqis have been displaced, 2 million of them to other countries, many of them in untenable economic and social situations.
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All five items listed above are FACTS, only my comment on pro-life beliefs is my opinion, the other 6 unlisted items are also facts, read the op.

Show us you are not ignorant by listing 5 facts that support the 'Iraq is a tremendous success' declaration by Mr. 'No Doubt'....facts not opinions. Oh yeah, overall deaths are down and Saddam Hussein is gone, 'tremendous success'? ... I don't think so. Give me 5 facts or are you too ignorant?

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I'm a hypocrite, I'm intolerant of intolerance. Hey, what's your Terrorist Score?

[quote=BuckNaked;524006]If he was you can't prove he actually knew it was a lie so according to neo-con dictionary that means he didn't lie!

'No Doubt' Cheney said: 'There is no doubt Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.' He had no PROOF of this yet he said it, that's a lie. He said 'NO DOUBT' not 'he may have'. Note also that the CIA had no proof of it either, no one did because Saddam Hussein had no WMD, although some neocons still think they're buried out in the Iraqi desert somewhere, but you'll always have some dummies in the crowd.

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I'm a hypocrite, I'm intolerant of intolerance. Hey, what's your Terrorist Score?

Then again maybe you're not....

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McCain 2008
"We make war that we may live in peace"
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
"Oderint dum metuant"
"Inartful: clear and straightforward, lacking the artistry that allows subsequent self-refutation and denial."
http://members.cox.net/neddy/bobhope_kerfuffles.wmv
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RnfflRNpwKA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=j-QYIP7o2-A

Awesome scene from an awesome movie.

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"The marvel of all history is the patience with which men and women submit to burdens unnecessarily laid upon them by their governments"

--George Washington

"Never spend your money before you have earned it."

--Thomas Jefferson

"One man with courage is a majority."

--Thomas Jefferson