So, how did you develop your political beliefs? - Page 4

danarhea · #31 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 11:59 AM

My political beliefs pretty much came from my father, who was a Goldwater Republican, and who encouraged me to be active. He was approached one time to run for office, and turned down the offer. His family was more important to him.

Herkdriver · #32 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stekim

Indeed. And someone born to two hillybilly parents in rural West Virginia or someone born to a single, black parent in a gang infested inner city slum will have an even harder time than Obama. The farther down you are on the ladder, the more rungs you need to climb to reach the top. That's not to say it can't be done. It's just far harder. You need be smarter, work harder and get a little lucky along the way. Paris Hilton only needed to be born and Viola! She's rich and "successful". Not sure how this is controversial.

Liberalism = the politics of envy

stekim · #33 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:08 PM

Not sure what that has to do with me or my post, but OK.

Herkdriver · #34 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ixtellor

Which is why I prefaced my remark with:

You see Marx as a communist, and probably nothing of his exhaustive works in economic history.

I believe you were once in the military, so let me make an analogy.

You equating wealth of nations to the finest book on economics, is tantamount to me saying "The M-16 is the finest assault rifle ever made".

Marx was responsible for the Communist manifesto, so yeah the leap to calling him a "Commie" isn't that difficult.

and on a side note~

Actually the M16A4 is a good weapon.
I'll let our resident weapons expert CDP expound on it's qualities. I haven't fired one in a long time.

Herkdriver · #35 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stekim

Not sure what that has to do with me or my post, but OK.

Well it's typical of many liberals.

They are envious of the success of others and in some "Robin Hood" fantasy they
think it is justifiable to steal from the rich and give to the poor.

It's the politics of envy.

Try reading "Animal Farm" by George Orwell.

BigRed · #36 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Herkdriver

Well it's typical of many liberals.

They are envious of the success of others and in some "Robin Hood" fantasy they
think it is justifiable to steal from the rich and give to the poor.

It's the politics of envy.

Then Republicans (I can't call 'em conservatives) play the sidekick to Robin Hood.

'Cuz they certainly aren't trying to thwart Hood's efforts.

Whaler17 · #37 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stekim

Indeed. And someone born to two hillybilly parents in rural West Virginia or someone born to a single, black parent in a gang infested inner city slum will have an even harder time than Obama. The farther down you are on the ladder, the more rungs you need to climb to reach the top. That's not to say it can't be done. It's just far harder. You need be smarter, work harder and get a little lucky along the way. Paris Hilton only needed to be born and Viola! She's rich and "successful". Not sure how this is controversial.

Or you need to compromise your principles in order to gain favor with those who can do things for you!

stekim · #38 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:20 PM

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They are envious of the success of others and in some "Robin Hood" fantasy they
think it is justifiable to steal from the rich and give to the poor.

Some do. But my post was merely pointing out a simple fact of life. Paris Hilton has it easier than Toqua Jones third ghetto baby and will find material success far easier. She got a freakin' record deal. You think Toqua's kid will be given a record deal with the same lame talent? Hell no. I don't call that "envy". I call it a fact. And as a libertarian the whole Robin Hood thing doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies.

Whaler17 · #39 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stekim

Some do. But my post was merely pointing out a simple fact of life. Paris Hilton has it easier than Toqua Jones third ghetto baby and will find material success far easier. She got a freakin' record deal. You think Toqua's kid will be given a record deal with the same lame talent? Hell no. I don't call that "envy". I call it a fact. And as a libertarian the whole Robin Hood thing doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies.

Ah but Toqua has it much easier than her parents did! Due to her economic status and race, she can move to the front of the line sans talent or education and become a speedbump for the economy!

Herkdriver · #40 (**permalink**) 05-19-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stekim

Some do. But my post was merely pointing out a simple fact of life. Paris Hilton has it easier than Toqua Jones third ghetto baby and will find material success far easier. She got a freakin' record deal. You think Toqua's kid will be given a record deal with the same lame talent? Hell no. I don't call that "envy". I call it a fact. And as a libertarian the whole Robin Hood thing doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies.

Life isn't and has never been..............

Fair.

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