The Iraq War?

What were the people called who flew the airplanes into the Trade Centers and bombed the USS Cole? Was that right of them?

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I am of the opinion that you don't just need to have a small budget in a third world country and strap explosives to your chest to be a terrorist, modern militaries and their wars are just as terroristic.

America has a long history of brutality and imperialism which has left millions dead.

But we never started it. Kuwait called for our help as did South Korea. Japan hit us on a Sunday morning in a sneak attack while they negotiated for peace in Washington with Sec Stinson. What is wrong with preserving and expanding democracy to nations that have tyrannical leaders who oppress their citizens? I find it Patriotic and America at its finest when we do that. War will always create collateral damage in human life but we must stay the course. The good of the many out weigh the needs of the few or the one.

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Let's take your question at face value. Just for the sake of non-argument.

First, my definition of "rogue nation" and "evil regimes" might not be the same as yours. For example, the Bush administration has qualified as both of those for me. Why don't I "take charge" and "stand up to" the Bush administration? Well, I do ... but I do so in a pacifist way so Bush probably feels pretty free to ignore me. I protest, basically, is about all I do.

And why am I a pacifist? Well, I'm not a perfect one. You seek to harm my people and I'm a baseball-bat-wielding player in your way. And I knock 'em out of the park. But I'm a civilian, by which I mean that I believe in the civil solution to problems in general. I try not to fight people because I don't want to fight people. It makes me feel stupid and bad and those are two of my least favorite ways to feel. Fighting is, for lack of a more accurate term, retarded. Necessary? Maybe, I guess so, I personally haven't figured out how to solve every possible eventuality peacefully, but that doesn't make violence a good thing even if it necessary.

I think I'm like most people, actually. I don't go in for this "glory of war" stuff. Do I admire soldiers? Yes, I think they're brave, the way a lot of people are brave. But war? Not so much. War is the stupidest, most evil thing humanity has ever come up with. War is the meanest thing we do to each other, with the possible exception of slavery, which is really just a very slow-motion war with one side having a serious advantage. War is what happens when all the good, smart ideas have failed.

I'm not afraid of war. You can think something is a bad idea and not be afraid of it. And frankly, it annoys me when pro-war people do that, trying to equate peace with cowardice. We all acknowledge that there are risks either way. Sometimes, the risk is greater being peaceful and sometimes the risk is greater being violent.

Thing is, if you're the most powerful player on the board (and we are), then the worst thing that can happen if the peaceful method fails completely is still as good as the best thing that can happen if the violent plan succeeds perfectly. 'Cause they're the same thing.

I have the feeling that won't make any sense to you. What can I say. Moving right along ...

And as for this "appeasement" thing. Yeesh. I mean, c'mon. What are we, three-year-olds? If we approach a problem from any angle other than a violently-backed ultimatum, we run the risk of accidentally giving somebody something they want, and that's bad?

Are you guys mental? It's like insisting that you'll only talk to people after you've killed their parents and raped their children just to prove that you're superior to them. Which, come to think of it, is exactly how Rome used to do it. So it's not like this attitude is anything new. I shouldn't be surprised.

But when it comes right down to it: Why are so many conservatives warmongering aggressors and in love with death?

Both of those wars were guided by liberal presidents.

Your thread title is not factual. Why did you make such a claim, when it's clearly false?

In Vietnam civilians were deliberately targeted all the time.

Because some couldn't be trusted and they didn't wear unforms just like these insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. They blend in well and that is why its called guerilla warfare.

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I am talking about todays times actually and our current crop of liberal candidates and congressmen and women like Pelosi.

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That's just one incident. Here is another. In 2002, in East Texas, some members of the Camila Knights of the Ku Klux Klan were caught by the FBI with a sodium cyanide bomb, capable of killing at least hundreds, if detonated inside a city.

There is a Liberal radio station here in Houston called KPFT. The Ku Klux Klan bombed it off the air twice. Just last year, someone did a drive by shooting on it, the bullets just missing the receptionist.

Need I mention James Byrd, who was chained to a pickup truck a few short years ago, and dragged down an East Texas road until his head came off?

People say the Ku Klux Klan is dead, but in parts of Texas, it is very much alive.