Perhaps 'plain' to you and I means a different thing eh Raharu?

His method is far from unique- hatemongering and emotive/heavily laden language like "drive-by media" and "feminazi" just takes more power in the discussion, by changing the agreed terminology to one that already favours his argument- quite a popular tactic really. Anyways...

Reagrds ethanol and food prices- well hoarding food to drive prices up, increased consumption, increased price of production(notably expensive oil), change in growing conditions (bad right now in Australia, I don't know how other countries are doing).

By linking ethanol to higher prices (legitament) and then ignoring as much as possible other influences, he can then say that ethanol is the problem, should be eliminated, and pour hate on enviromentalits/climate change concerns. Does he mention diverting production of less critical crops- don't think so. Does he mention the critical role ethanol could play in energy independance and climate change, and weigh all the possible cources of actions reasonably and with tact....lolno.

Argh you got me talking ethanol, want to continue in a new thread? I'd like to know how much an effect its had on prices, and about next-gen bio-fuels that wouldn't use food crops.

I'm not 100% on what you mean, but I think you mean that we could solve the problem by using other crops (other than corn) to make ethanol with. That is not the answer because farms have stopped growing most everything except corn. So if they made ethanol out of soy beans, then all the farmers would grow soy beans. We would have the exact same problem.
global warming is a lie. ethanol is not the solution to energy independence because ethanol uses more energy than it burns - or close to it.
that's rushbo

So you agree with the other points then are having an influence, hoarding and such? And that limbaugfh fails to consider such things in his diatribes? How about a comment on loaded language, like the word 'diatribe'?

Anyway paragraph one, no I thought more alnong the lines of producing less wine, for example, and planting one of the biofuels instead. REality being finites, something has to change- I'd argue be it the price/consumption of achoholo. (Course I don't drink so I won't man the barricades against such a proposal :P )

#2 Really, got something to back that up with? Not the warming is a lie thing, thats debtated elsewhere but as this topic is to slide off into ethanol anyway lets see some numbers.

#3 Like hell it is, you think hes reasonable? Christ hes trashing your democracy with Chaos right now, and the only justification is what- he claims it was done to them 1st? Eye for an eye right?

Yup, but if you listen to his show long enough he'll own the punk out of some liberal for ya, and all of his loaded terminology falls into place. He's really good at that, and that's why he dose it.
They do do that.
I think you can google it. Anyone who thinks ethanol is the answer has not done their research.
I think it's very reasonable. The primaries aren't democracy if everyone isn't allowed to vote how they want. I actually wouldn't at all be against double voting, where people are allowed to vote twice for both rep. and dem.