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| Huey Long |
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9 | 31.03% |
| Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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5 | 17.24% |
| George W. Bush |
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10 | 34.48% |
| Woodrow Wilson |
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2 | 6.90% |
| William Jennings Bryan |
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2 | 6.90% |
| Ronald Reagan |
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3 | 10.34% |
| Other (explain) |
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6 | 20.69% |
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They don't have to be a president, or even a public official. Any major figure in American politics will do.
Huey Long- Governor of Louisiana, US senator, Democrat, radical populist, and textbook fascist. -Fascist accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Long Franklin D. Roosevelt- Four term President of the US, Commander in Chief during WWII, and major social reformer. -Fascist accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FDR George W. Bush- Current President of the US, Commander in Chief of the War in Iraq. -Fascist accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush Woodrow Wilson- President of the US, Commander in Chief during WWI, social reformer, and proponent of the "New Nationalism" -Fascist accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson William Jennings Bryan- Secretary of State under Wilson, presidential candidate in 1896, 1900, and 1908, populist leader, and religious fundamentalist. -Fascist accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan Ronald Reagan- President of the US, leader during the Cold War -Fascist Accomplishments
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan Other- Please explain why they are more of a fascist than these and please list their "fascist accomplishments"
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I feel this post is a bit misleading since even experts cannot agree on what fascism is exactly. I understand the basics of the definition, but its really hard to pinpoint one figure in american history that has promoted a strong-man government through military force and pushed a one-party state. Not to mention that National Socialism is based off of ideological nationalism that uses social darwinism and racism to promote one's own power.
I think its a bit of a cop-out to target fascism so directly when its a very complex and misunderstood form of government that people associate with "evil." Not that Hitler wasn't a very twisted, sick meglomaniac that is at fault for the deaths of millions of people, but some people don't differentiate between fascism and Hitler. I will say that the most facist people were the people and corporations who wanted to overthrow FDR through a coup in 1930 lead by the General Smedley Butler and install a Fascist strong man.
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1.) Powerful and Continuing Nationalism: Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2.) Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights: Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. 3.) Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause: The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. 4.) Supremacy of the Military: Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. 5.) Rampant Sexism: The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. 6.) Controlled Mass Media: Sometimes the media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. 7.) Obsession with National Security: Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. 8.) Religion and Government are Intertwined: Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. 9.) Corporate Power is Protected: The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. 10.) Labor power is suppressed. 11.) Disdain for intellectuals and the arts. 12.) Obsession with Crime and Punishment 13.) Rampant cronyism and corruption 14.) Fraudulent elections See Project for the OLD American Century; http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm |
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Wind, I agree with your points being fascist, and that Bush is guilty of them. But that doesn't mean that Bush is the most fascist. I included him because I knew liberals would protest if I didn't, but everyone needs to know that everyone on this list except for Reagan is guilty of taking those to the highest extent. Anyone who has read about FDR or Wilson knows that Bush is relatively tame.
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I wasn't alive during Roosevelt and Wilson. Roosevelt was responsible for social security-- a good thing IMO and Wilson for the UN-- another positive accomplishment. What accomplishment will history praise George W Bush for? I think it will be the beginning of the end of democracy and the fall of the American Empire. |
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I think, as another poster suggested, you need to define fascism first.
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