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Old 05-28-2008, 02:13 AM
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Well never know who won because in the US you can't do a recount without destroying the country.
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Old 05-28-2008, 05:51 AM
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Is everyone forgetting that Obama and Clinton both agreed that Florida and Michigan would not count? These are the rules they both agreed to play by. So don't whine when it doesn't work out in your favor as Ms. Clinton is now doing! You can't replay the Super Bowl back in 1990 because the league didn't institute instant replay and you got robbed of a touchdown. These are the rules they both agreed to, bottom line.
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Is everyone forgetting that Obama and Clinton both agreed that Florida and Michigan would not count? These are the rules they both agreed to play by. So don't whine when it doesn't work out in your favor as Ms. Clinton is now doing! You can't replay the Super Bowl back in 1990 because the league didn't institute instant replay and you got robbed of a touchdown. These are the rules they both agreed to, bottom line.
its not at the discretion of the candidates whether the votes count or not. it doesnt really matter either way though because if the votes dont count then the voters will dislike obama so they will most likely vote for mccain and if they do count and hillary wins then all the people that dislike her will either stay home or not vote. personally, id prefer if hillary was the democratic candidate not because mccain would win but because in case mccain will lose we wont be completely screwed. at least hillary has some common sense.. sometimes..
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Yeah, I was once a Hillary supporter, but when too many stupid things come out of your own mouth, it's time to judge the source of those comments. So if they play by the rules that were set by the Democratic party and Obama wins, then all of a sudden they just change the rules and give it to Hillary by counting Michigan and Florida, then don't you think the same will happen with Obama supporters? And Hillary has yet to make common sense win trying to explain why she is still in the race. (Unless you believe that Obama is in danger of being assasinated).
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These are primaries that take place in political parties. They have to make their own decisions about how they pick their candidates, and should not be subject to laws that government general elections in our country.
Except, they used tax money to pay for this selection process. Therefore, the states have every right to choose whatever date they want for their primaries.

If the political parties don't like it, then they can fund their own primaries and shell out tens of millions of dollars. Anyone see that happening?

Bottom line to the DNC and RNC -- put up or shut up!
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Except, they used tax money to pay for this selection process. Therefore, the states have every right to choose whatever date they want for their primaries.

If the political parties don't like it, then they can fund their own primaries and shell out tens of millions of dollars. Anyone see that happening?

Bottom line to the DNC and RNC -- put up or shut up!
Hmmm... They definitely shouldn't be allowed to use tax money, but if they do, then Florida and Michigan should be allowed to participate if they also contribute to this tax money.
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And Hillary has yet to make common sense win trying to explain why she is still in the race.
Does Obama have the required votes to win the nomination? No! That's why Clinton is still in the race.
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No Matter what, If there are over 2.5 millions of people willing to take their time and went to the voting booth to vote, their votes should be counted. If those votes should not be counted, these 2 states should not have set up the voting booth at the first place.
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Does Obama have the required votes to win the nomination? No! That's why Clinton is still in the race.
Can she win? No, then she should drop out. The prior scenarios she spoke of talked about candidates that could actually win. She can't. That's the point!
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Hmmm... They definitely shouldn't be allowed to use tax money, but if they do, then Florida and Michigan should be allowed to participate if they also contribute to this tax money.
These primaries are completely funded with tax dollars. The political parties are getting a free ride for their selection process. That's why these delegates should be seated.

The DNC doesn't have the right to tell Michigan and Florida when they can hold their primaries, because those states paid 100% of the costs for conducting those primaries.
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