Hillary is largely responsible for Florida and Michigan losing their delegates. This is also true for the phenomenom of the Democrat "Super-Delegate."

This is what is called and unintended consequence of letting necessity trump principle.

Such arrogance! Since when does a private organization have the right to tell the states when to hold a tax funded election?

BTW, I'm not saying that a Republic is bad. In our society, we are more interested in watching American Idol than watching what's going on in the housing market or Iraq. So it doesn't that we don't have a true Democracy. I'm sure less than 10% of the population really keeps up with what's going on and the rest here it from their favorite Hollywood star or some conspiracy theorist or talk show host. Otherwise, I wouln't have every other person I talk to telling me that Obama is a muslim. The system we have in place is good enough because the majority of Americans either don't care or don't care to know.

It depends...some do, or they face penalties. It is left up to the states.

In any event:




Ok.



We fit all underlined definitions.

As I was saying....

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Only when they expect them to count. We all have rules to live by. I think I should be able to do at least 75 on the highway even though it's only 55-65. But I can't make that decision without possible consequence. Does that make it right? In fact I usually drive that fast and have never had an accident. So will that hold up in court? I doubt it. Both states knew the possible consequences and they did it anyway. As far as the DNC being a private organization, it is definitely that. If you don't like it, join another party or create your own. It is that simple. Are only choices are not Dem or Rep. We have more.

Having more delegates is not how the game is played. You have to have 2026 delegates to win, not just a majority; and he can't reach that number before the convention. Therefore, there's no reason for Clinton to drop out.

We should let the party rules dictate how it'll be played out at the convention, since this is such a tight race.

I agree that we have characteristics of both. You obviously can't have a republic without some democratic process in place. My point is that in a democracy a majority rules. That is not the case in our country, just look at the 2000 election. So to my point, majority does not directly rule in our country. In fact, I would say the lobbyist and big corporations have more power than the people (especially when we are not united and our interest lie elsewhere). Just take a look at the DNC. Even though I'm a Dem, some appointed Superdelegate has more voting power than me. I nor did anyone vote some of the Superdelegates and yet they still have a vote as an individual that does not have to represent a majority.

I agree. It just seems to me that all she is doing is further splitting the party and any scenario that sees her as the winner after Obama already had the majority of the delegates would smell of political corruption and further divide the party. So how can she truly win? If her allegiance is the the Democratic party, then she should do what's best for it. Do you truly see her winning the nomination on pleasant terms?

I don't see anyone winning on pleasant terms.

There's no guarantee that he'll get it on the first round, just because he was leading going into it.

By the time the convention rolls around, these delegates will have had time to think about who their best bet against McCain will be.

I agree, but I also believe they should think in terms of Americans. Most of us are uneducated when it comes to this type of stuff. So to give it to Hillary when every person tells you that she has no mathematical way of winning is all people hear. I talk to people everyday who says they would stay at home if they stole it from Obama. I tell them to still vote, but from their perspective, I see their point. If he received more pledged delegates, then that must mean he had more of the popular vote (Michigan and Florida not withstanding). So therefore the Super Del would be going against the majority and giving it to Clinton which I think would be wrong.