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Old 06-13-2008, 12:34 PM
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why don't people (employment agency, employers, etc...) classify white people as....."german american"....or "irish american"....or "dutch american".....etc
Because "black" is more descriptive and therefore more useful if your goal is to categorize people by race. Germans, Irish, and Dutch are all the same race.

Lots of people born in Africa are not black. Been to a Dave Matthews concert lately? He is literally an African American.



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Why cant we just call them negros?
Because the term was used by you people before you were deposed into obscurity. And so is permanently polluted through your use.
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Because the term was used by you people before you were deposed into obscurity. And so is permanently polluted through your use.
Kind of like how Democrats have destroyed the meaning of liberal?

Negro actually is nothing more than black in latin. We should use it!
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Kind of like how Democrats have destroyed the meaning of liberal?
Yeah, pretty much. They will probably accomplish the same thing with "progressive" as well.




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Negro actually is nothing more than black in latin. We should use it!
It doesnt have the same connotation in English.
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.....you often here people classify themselves and others.......if a person is black, then the person is "african american"

however, if a person is white, then the person is "caucasian" or just "white".....

why don't people (employment agency, employers, etc...) classify white people as....."german american"....or "irish american"....or "dutch american".....etc

you hear it often in the news........"the first 'african american'......" blah blah blah......

by the way, is mcain an 'irish american'?
I am pretty sure you already know the answer to that question, but I will play along.

See the difference is most whites can track down their origins in the world, but Black folks have been basterdized from theirs.

See Black folks couldn't keep a dairy of the family tree to pass on from generation to generation to generation.

Once we were brought here we were robbed of our language, robbed of our names, we lost our religion, our culture, our God and some of us by the way we act we even lost our minds.

We were cut-off and basterdized.

Does that answer your question.


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I posted this originally here (Racism) but it think it's applicable in this thread as well.

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We are Americans first and foremost. I'm not a German American, I'm an American. These guys aren't African Americans, they are Americans. The vast majority haven't even been to Africa. Should they reject their heritage? Of course not. However, there is a deliberate cognitive distancing of oneself from this country when you insert a modifier prior to 'American.' You are emphasizing your differences from everyone not like you. Instead of focusing on what unites us, the land in which we live and breath and receive the freedoms and opportunities we love, it focuses on what divides us, the land from which our ancestors came. You are either American or you are not. The rest is divisive semantic foolishness.

I do tend to be frustrated by black only scholarships and clubs. Reverse racism smells no sweeter simply because 50 years ago a race was discriminated against. The only way to triumph over racism is to move beyond it; not dwell in the hurt and the pain. Yes, there is a cathartic healing process which must be undertaken which includes directly facing with brutal clarity exactly what happened. However, when you choose to dwell in that mindset instead of move past it, you become a perpetual victim and sacrifice your mental clarity. Everything you see is then interpreted through the prism of white oppression and racism. Your thinking will be warped.

The problem that I see with many of these organizations is that they often don't focus on moving forward but rather focus on the horrors of the past. It seems sometimes that they would rather beat white people with the guilt stick versus advancing true equality. Programs that are designed to cater and pander to one race only must be very careful not to cross the line into racism.

It's a simple but true concept that you become or move towards what you focus on. If you constantly dwell within the past and allow those experiences to negatively shape your worldview, you will be defined by what happened to you. I would much rather allow my future to define me instead of my past.
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Why cant we just call them negros?
You just did. Now lets keep it real here, you know Negro is not what you really want to say. LOL.


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When you are accepted as a real part of where you are at.


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Ugh. Don't make LA-Oilman bring out his hood and cloak.
He's the guy that posted that atrocious "article" from David Duke about Obama's candidacy "waking up" the European-american majority in the U.S. What trash!
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The term African American is stupid. As it was pointed out earlier the black person in question may not be American. The correct term is black. If they don't like it then we shall go back to the proper term Negro which describes the specific race.
Ok, lets say Negro doesn't work, then do we go back to Colored? If that doesn't work do we go back to Ni....? If that does work do we go back to Slave?

When do we become "Americans"?

Just curious.
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