What if there was a health care system that had primary coverage,funded by the government that was mandatory?(THe coverage was basic doc appointments and minor surgeries, etc) Then a secondary coverage plan covered everything else but was optional.

We would not be living in a "free" society. We would be kept under the thumb of the Imperial Government. Sure, the neo-socialists and dregs of society don't mind, but I would like to continue being self-sufficient, thankyouverymuch.

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That could easily be accomplished by what McCain is pushing through opening competition among insurance companies throughout the nation, as well as the allowance of optional plans given ones needs. The problem with it is that the liberals would cry about the fact that the elderly have to pay more for their health care costs because they are far more likely to develop illness, disease, and medical costs through emergencies. Perhaps they didn't read the book, "Everyone dies." when they were a kid.

Umm, lol, what exactly is the 'choice' is health care, I mean you've seen one hospital you've seen them all. I mean at these 'other' hospitals do you get different versions of antibiotics or something? There simply is no choice in health because the standards for medicine and care are national and uniform, so there's no room for difference. I mean there's not multiple ways to treat an infection is there? Medical science makes it's pretty clear what works and what doesn't.

'Choice' in health care is a right-wing sham.

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what if we looked at what 5 Capitalist Democracies have done before we attempt to reinvent the wheel?



5 Capitalist Democracies and How They Do It.

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Leech the system!!!

LEECH THE SYSTEM!!!


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Originally Posted by Skinny. A liberal is just a libertarian who hasn't studied economics.

How ironic. You've just explained exactly why socialist medicine will fail. Everything will be regulated by Mother Government, so there will be even LESS choice and difference.

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The choice is in the policy. I for one, have a low monthly payment high deductible plan since my wife and I are young and have almost no medical expenses. We have the policy for the "just in case" factor. Others pay more per month for lower deductibles, and I am only talking about health savings accounts. There really are a ton of policies to choose from.

And yes, these days 'choice' is a right-wing term, not just in healthcare. Choice is not a word I hear many liberals use anymore. I wouldn't call it a sham, more like a slogan for most of us.

stating one is for individual choice of an insurer has nothing useful to add to the conversation. it is a stance without substantive debate

. in other democracies the issue has moved ahead. with health care, education and other issues we in the USA lag behind. why is that? the politicizing of issues by companies with a vested interest in profits over American overall interests.

choice? there is choice in a single payer system---choice of medical provider and you need look no further than switzerland

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BUZZZZZZ! WRONG!
The levels of service at various locations vary, as do the physical facilities. Sizes of rooms, convenience of location, etc..... are elements of choice.

Now if we implement what you are suggesting, they would all be uniformly bad!

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