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View Poll Results: Who is An Enemy Of Islam?
USA 7 23.33%
UBL 23 76.67%
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:03 PM
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Just as Christianity and the Bible have many interpretations, so does Islam and the Koran. One who may be considered a hero of one interpretation may be considered an enemy of the other. The USA (more specifically its culture) is considered an enemy to the form of radicalized Islam that Osama follows. Therefore, his attacks against this western culture are seen as heroic. For others, his purposeful attack of civilians goes directly against the teachings of the Koran, so he is considered an enemy.
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:15 PM
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Please ask these "many Muslims you know"...

1. Do they want Sharia Law?
2. Is the Koran Literally true?
(then watch them evade)

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I won't evade these questions.

Any true Muslim wants Sharia Law and believes the Quran is literally True.
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Any true Muslim
I love how you added the word true in front of Muslim. Which makes it so that you can conveniently say that any Muslim that does not want/believe those two things is not a true Muslim.

Sorry but you don't get to decide who is or isn't a true Muslim. There are many different thoughts within Islam and either none of them are less right that the others or nobody living has the authority or knowledge to say which one is the most right. Just like in the many other religions in the world.

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Wrong.
Muslims cheered 9/11 worldwide.
Most did not.
Here's one that didn't: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/khadr/
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For "UBL".

"USA" is not a solid representation of the problem of the current government.

The problem with the USA is the current NEOCONS in power who are wielding to the expansionistic interventionist foreign policy.

Please read RON PAUL's book - Revolution.

I voted for "UBL" because obviously he is not following the Islamic rules of warfare.

9/11 was definately his crime and sin (if he was really responsible).
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Are people seriously still going on about that "if he was really responsible for 9/11" nonsense? That statement makes me think only one thing about the person who says it. That they are seriously misinformed.
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Are people seriously still going on about that "if he was really responsible for 9/11" nonsense? That statement makes me think only one thing about the person who says it. That they are seriously misinformed.
I personally believe that he did it, but you should give the benefit of doubt. how can he run that enormous plan within US? US has greatest intelligence agency, most powerful police force and a tight security. it was totally impossible without some internal help.
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Most did not.
Here's one that didn't: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/khadr/
So you have 1 traitor to his people and a turncoat to his family as an example.

He was a rebellious child and a dishonor to all Muslims.
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So you have 1 traitor to his people and a turncoat to his family as an example.

He was a rebellious child and a dishonor to all Muslims.
It is clear that no matter what facts are shown to you, you will never change your belief that any Muslim that isn't a radical fundamentalist is a traitor to Islam so I'm not even going to bother trying. Have fun being part of the problem.

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I personally believe that he did it, but you should give the benefit of doubt. how can he run that enormous plan within US? US has greatest intelligence agency, most powerful police force and a tight security. it was totally impossible without some internal help.
They pieced together how it was done in the 9/11 commission report. And security, unfortunately, was not that tight on airlines before.
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It is clear that no matter what facts are shown to you, you will never change your belief that any Muslim that isn't a radical fundamentalist is a traitor to Islam so I'm not even going to bother trying.
Have fun being part of the problem.
So far you haven't presented any facts.

The bogus 9/11 Commission Report can't hardly qualify as a fact.


People like you Paragon aren't part of the problem.

You are the problem!
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The bogus 9/11 Commission Report can't hardly qualify as a fact.
At the very least, expert opinion based on available facts.

So Sonni, you've just stepped into conspiracy theorist land. Congrats! you get Official PF Tinfoil Hat coming in the mail
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