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Old 06-19-2008, 07:10 PM
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The two-star general who led an Army investigation into the horrific detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of war crimes and is calling for accountability.

In his 2004 report on Abu Ghraib, then-Major General Anthony Taguba concluded that "numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees." He called the abuse "systemic and illegal." And, as Semour Hersh reported in the New Yorker, he was rewarded for his honesty by being forced into retirement.

This was first reported Wednesday, June 18, 2008 in the Washington Post. Here's a link to the full story... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061801546.html

You'll find this isn't just isolated reporting of the war crimes. The media now reporting this story isn't comprised of obscure internet sites and bloggers. It's The Washington Post. The Associated Press contributed. The New Yorker Magazine contributed. McClatchy Newspapers, America's third largest newspaper publisher, contributed and has been running a series on this issue in all their newspapers across the nation. Seymour Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter, has contributed.

While our own Congress has shown little backbone to make the Bush administration accountable for their illegal acts, it doesn't remove the possibility that war crimes charges could be leveled in the future at the World Court, by other nations who's citizens were subjected to these criminal acts.

We all bear a portion of responsibility for this, even those of us that have never been supporters of George W. Bush and his policies. Like it or not, he is our president, representing us to the world. Perhaps there was more each of us could have done to mitigate the damage he's done to our country's standing in the world community. It's a sad chapter in our history that we have sunk so low that actual war crimes may have been authorized by our highest leaders, and committed in our name. It's unlike anything I've ever witnessed in my lifetime, or could have ever imagined.

Do we need a change in direction in our country? A real change? A significant change? It defies comrehension to think otherwise. Those that have enabled this administration by their excusing away, rationalizing, justifying, even lying for them, need to be purged. That would incude the overwhelming majority, not all, just the overwhelming majority of all Republicans. We need to cut out the rot. The general election in November is our chance.

Hopefully we'll get it right this time.
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The two-star general who led an Army investigation into the horrific detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of war crimes and is calling for accountability.

In his 2004 report on Abu Ghraib, then-Major General Anthony Taguba concluded that "numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees." He called the abuse "systemic and illegal." And, as Semour Hersh reported in the New Yorker, he was rewarded for his honesty by being forced into retirement.

This was first reported Wednesday, June 18, 2008 in the Washington Post. Here's a link to the full story... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061801546.html

You'll find this isn't just isolated reporting of the war crimes. The media now reporting this story isn't comprised of obscure internet sites and bloggers. It's The Washington Post. The Associated Press contributed. The New Yorker Magazine contributed. McClatchy Newspapers, America's third largest newspaper publisher, contributed and has been running a series on this issue in all their newspapers across the nation. Seymour Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter, has contributed.

While our own Congress has shown little backbone to make the Bush administration accountable for their illegal acts, it doesn't remove the possibility that war crimes charges could be leveled in the future at the World Court, by other nations who's citizens were subjected to these criminal acts.

We all bear a portion of responsibility for this, even those of us that have never been supporters of George W. Bush and his policies. Like it or not, he is our president, representing us to the world. Perhaps there was more each of us could have done to mitigate the damage he's done to our country's standing in the world community. It's a sad chapter in our history that we have sunk so low that actual war crimes may have been authorized by our highest leaders, and committed in our name. It's unlike anything I've ever witnessed in my lifetime, or could have ever imagined.

Do we need a change in direction in our country? A real change? A significant change? It defies comrehension to think otherwise. Those that have enabled this administration by their excusing away, rationalizing, justifying, even lying for them, need to be purged. That would incude the overwhelming majority, not all, just the overwhelming majority of all Republicans. We need to cut out the rot. The general election in November is our chance.

Hopefully we'll get it right this time.
That's where U made your mistake. U can't just wish this on the Repubs. The Dems are as guilty as sin too.


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To a lesser degree, of course you're right. However, having said that, it's been the Republicans that have been the president's most constant defenders and excusers. Instead of attempting to prop him up once they realized the magnitude of his incompetence, they chose to invest all their energy in excusing way, rationalizing, and justifying blunder after blunder.
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To a lesser degree, of course you're right. However, having said that, it's been the Republicans that have been the president's most constant defenders and excusers. Instead of attempting to prop him up once they realized the magnitude of his incompetence, they chose to invest all their energy in excusing way, rationalizing, and justifying blunder after blunder.
Do U also think that it could be because the Dem's don't have the votes? It is reasonable and something to talk about.

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The two-star general who led an Army investigation into the horrific detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib has accused the Bush administration of war crimes and is calling for accountability.

In his 2004 report on Abu Ghraib, then-Major General Anthony Taguba concluded that "numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees." He called the abuse "systemic and illegal." And, as Semour Hersh reported in the New Yorker, he was rewarded for his honesty by being forced into retirement.

This was first reported Wednesday, June 18, 2008 in the Washington Post. Here's a link to the full story... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...061801546.html

You'll find this isn't just isolated reporting of the war crimes. The media now reporting this story isn't comprised of obscure internet sites and bloggers. It's The Washington Post. The Associated Press contributed. The New Yorker Magazine contributed. McClatchy Newspapers, America's third largest newspaper publisher, contributed and has been running a series on this issue in all their newspapers across the nation. Seymour Hersh, a Pulitzer Prize winning investigative reporter, has contributed.

While our own Congress has shown little backbone to make the Bush administration accountable for their illegal acts, it doesn't remove the possibility that war crimes charges could be leveled in the future at the World Court, by other nations who's citizens were subjected to these criminal acts.

We all bear a portion of responsibility for this, even those of us that have never been supporters of George W. Bush and his policies. Like it or not, he is our president, representing us to the world. Perhaps there was more each of us could have done to mitigate the damage he's done to our country's standing in the world community. It's a sad chapter in our history that we have sunk so low that actual war crimes may have been authorized by our highest leaders, and committed in our name. It's unlike anything I've ever witnessed in my lifetime, or could have ever imagined.

Do we need a change in direction in our country? A real change? A significant change? It defies comrehension to think otherwise. Those that have enabled this administration by their excusing away, rationalizing, justifying, even lying for them, need to be purged. That would incude the overwhelming majority, not all, just the overwhelming majority of all Republicans. We need to cut out the rot. The general election in November is our chance.

Hopefully we'll get it right this time.
I could not agree more. The Bush Administration has jeopardized us futher. A majority of those abuses were conducted by, or under the direct supervision of, Mercenaries...I mean Security Contractors.

Absolutely shameful...and we allow it to continue.
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The only reason why Bush wasn't impeached is because Pelosi is a MOSSAD and is working underground with Israel. Read the article below:



Representative Ron Paul says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi removed a section from a bill passed by Congress which would have barred the U.S. from going to war with Iran without a congressional vote, claiming she did so at the behest of the leadership of Israel and AIPAC.

Paul, a former Republican presidential contender who formally removed himself from the party’s nomination race last week, makes the allegation on C-SPAN during a recently held foreign policy conference in Virginia.

Paul says Pelosi’s first act as House Speaker in 2006 was to “deliberately” remove a portion of a legislative spending bill which said the United States “can't go to war with Iran without getting approval from Congress.”

According to Paul, Pelosi and her allies in the chamber's Democratic leadership initially accepted the bill designed to outline an Iraq exit strategy, but during a revision of the legislation excluded the statement regarding the need for congressional approval of any military assault on the neighboring country of Iran.

“She [Pelosi] removed it deliberately,” Paul says. “And then, the astounding thing is, when asked why, she said the leadership in Israel asked her to. That was in the newspaper, that was in 'The Washington Post,' that she was asked by AIPAC and others not to do that."

Paul implies Pelosi, desperate to advance her flawed spending legislation, bargained away the proposal that would have been the House leadership's primary vehicle for challenging the administration's policies in the region.

According to John Nichols, who covered the story about Pelosi’s capitulation at the time for “The Nation,” Pelosi was "under pressure from some conservative members of her caucus, and from lobbyists associated with neoconservative groups that want war with Iran, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).”

Paul's allegation is corroborated by 'The Asia Times', which in another article published at the time says AIPAC was strongly against attaching "a provision to a Pentagon spending bill that would require President Bush to get congressional approval before attacking Iran. AIPAC was strongly against it because it viewed the legislation as taking the military option 'off the table.' The provision was killed."

The article also cites Congressman Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, as saying [Pelosi's] decision was due to AIPAC.

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The only reason why Bush wasn't impeached is because Pelosi is a MOSSAD and is working underground with Israel. Read the article below:



Representative Ron Paul says House Speaker Nancy Pelosi removed a section from a bill passed by Congress which would have barred the U.S. from going to war with Iran without a congressional vote, claiming she did so at the behest of the leadership of Israel and AIPAC.

Paul, a former Republican presidential contender who formally removed himself from the party’s nomination race last week, makes the allegation on C-SPAN during a recently held foreign policy conference in Virginia.

Paul says Pelosi’s first act as House Speaker in 2006 was to “deliberately” remove a portion of a legislative spending bill which said the United States “can't go to war with Iran without getting approval from Congress.”

According to Paul, Pelosi and her allies in the chamber's Democratic leadership initially accepted the bill designed to outline an Iraq exit strategy, but during a revision of the legislation excluded the statement regarding the need for congressional approval of any military assault on the neighboring country of Iran.

“She [Pelosi] removed it deliberately,” Paul says. “And then, the astounding thing is, when asked why, she said the leadership in Israel asked her to. That was in the newspaper, that was in 'The Washington Post,' that she was asked by AIPAC and others not to do that."

Paul implies Pelosi, desperate to advance her flawed spending legislation, bargained away the proposal that would have been the House leadership's primary vehicle for challenging the administration's policies in the region.

According to John Nichols, who covered the story about Pelosi’s capitulation at the time for “The Nation,” Pelosi was "under pressure from some conservative members of her caucus, and from lobbyists associated with neoconservative groups that want war with Iran, and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).”

Paul's allegation is corroborated by 'The Asia Times', which in another article published at the time says AIPAC was strongly against attaching "a provision to a Pentagon spending bill that would require President Bush to get congressional approval before attacking Iran. AIPAC was strongly against it because it viewed the legislation as taking the military option 'off the table.' The provision was killed."

The article also cites Congressman Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, as saying [Pelosi's] decision was due to AIPAC.

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The reason why Congress didn't go forward with Impeachment is because they put justice on the back-burner in order to concentrate their efforts on, The White House.

That in itself is the most disturbing of all. Especially when they constantly let him have his way.


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What were they concentrating on, decorating? He is going to cause a 3rd world war and have every country around the world refusing to sell us oil out of retribution. He needs to go now. Waiting for the election will be too late.
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