Guaranteed.

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"I should be calling collect from jail for the things I commit each night in my head" - D. Mustaine.

Here's the fourth unanswered request to ABoyNamedSue.

He wrote, "It's insurance for the losers of society. The dregs who would rather spend their money on creature comforts, instead of health insurance. The losers who abuse themselves with alcoholism, drug abuse or cigarette addiction. I think if you would ask successful citizens if they want to spend their tax money on these losers, you'd get a resounding "no." Whenever you hear stories about this socialist health insurance, or read polls, look closely to whom they get their information from. I'll tell you, it ain't gonna be from anyone in the middle-to-upper class. It's gonna be from the losers."

C'mon big mouth. What's your documentation that those without health insurance are "dregs"? (Note: Your moronic opinion doesn't count as documentation.)

What are your sources that Americans with no health insurance are allocating their money to creature comforts? (Note: Your moronic opinion doesn't count as a source.)

What source can you cite that Americans with no health insurance are "losers who abuse themselves with alcoholism, drug abuse or cigarette addiction"? (Note: Your moronic opinion doesn't count as a source.)

You've made these claims before. Back 'em up. Show us your sources. Where's your proof? Or are you just a giant bag of donkey dust that's all rant and no substance?

While you're at it, what about Americans that have a pre-existing condidition and insurance companies refuse to sell to them? If John McCain hadn't spent his life receiving federal health insurance he wouldn't be able to purchase any. Does that make him a "dreg, a loser, a drug addict"?

C'mon big mouth prove your claims.

You only cited someone's opinion. That's not a fact, it's an opinion. You probably don't know the difference between the two. You also didn't answer the challenge to support your absurd claims. I can understand why. There isn't any.

You sound like a loser, do you have health insurance?

Yes, he does. I just gave him a source and (as predicted) he ignores it. No wonder people don't take him seriously.

Somehow I think my opinion may just hit a little close to home.

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Well that just goes to show you that losers can own health insurance. So why can't other losers do it? Are they some how lower than this loser? How?

No no...I was agreeing with the "loser" part. My thoughts?

a) Dude does not have health insurance.
b) Dude can somehow afford a cell phone, cable tv, and (obviously) internet.

"Priorities," you know.

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Let me get this straight, the same government that has a track record of “overpayment” for everything it does, pours hundreds of billions and even trillions of dollars down rat holes is going to take over health insurance for America and make it efficient and cost effective?

And my mother was Queen Victoria!

Democrats will believe anything as long as it glorifies government. Government is daddy and mommy to democrats and they can't make it without it.

NO! He said this:

It is not bad for society if someone dies for a reason that is their fault. They could have health insurance if they were willing to pay for it. They choose not to, even though they could have the money if they were willing to cut luxury spending and work harder or possibly get a better education. It is bad for society if the government tries to implement socialized medicine where the rich pay for the poor.


I don't know about you but I would not feel it was good for society to see all the service workers in my community suffer or die for lack of health insurance.

People do not have health insurance because they cannot afford it.

In fact, the primary reason for the existence of the Federal Reserve which White Fox claims is so GOOD for society is to make sure that the working class suffers a level of unemployment that will ensure that they don't demand higher wages or benefits.

From Paul McCully of PIMCO:

"... In turn, those outcomes beget lower real wages and, presumably, lower real profits, too. We are less rich or more poor – period. Thus, those who holler and scream at the Fed for letting the inflation genie out of the bottle need to calm down. A negative terms of trade shock is a real shock, so it must be translated into lower real wages and profits. That simple and that painful. Logically, it also must be translated for a time into lower, even negative, real short-term interest rates, the rate of return on money.

Spiral Risk?
But, you retort, if the Fed surrenders to negative real interest rates, it will set off an inflationary spiral, as second and third round effects on prices and wages take hold: ....

Since the First Oil Price Shock, Unionization in America Has Been Cut in Half

We no longer live in such a world. Most importantly, wage inflation is now only loosely connected to price inflation, in the wake of a more globally competitive, less unionized labor force. As Vice Chairman Kohn hinted, the combination of somewhat higher inflation and higher unemployment is a prescription for diminished pricing power by labor, leading to lower real wages (than would be dictated by labor's productivity growth). "

Translation: Thanks to globalization and union busting, even as inflation and U.S. worker productivity goes up, they are unable to demand higher wages.

Medicare is better, more efficiently run than private for- profit health insurance. As White Fox boasted in a previous thread, only the elderly in the U.S. experience widespread satisfaction with health care.

Like WhiteFox said my comments didn't totally encompass the entirety of his argument. I don't feel the need to continue addressing public health insurance on all of it's very broad aspects because it really only takes looking at it from a single perspective to debunk it's legitimacy.

The government can't run anything efficiently. Period.

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I don't know what state you live in but the insurance premium you quoted in a previous thread would not buy an insurance plan with a $5,000. deductible in my state. All the items that come under b) in your list just don't even come close.

Here is a breakdown of my tenant's budget. She has one son. She makes about 400. a week before taxes. She pays me 450. a month. I pay for heat, elec., internet and cable

food for two 450 (at least!)
car payment 350
That leaves 350. How much of that is taken out for Soc.Sec? What is left for clothes, gas.etc,..? She is just making it. How do you suppose she could afford the $900. or so for health insurance?