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Old 06-22-2008, 10:52 PM
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Well for someone that wanted to remind the "kiddies" about history you seem to have forgotten the Iran Hostage Crisis in its entirety. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

Not sure if you remember the failed Operation Eagle Claw under Carter, but to me that was an attempt to storm the embassy that failed. It was only through negotiations that the hostages were released.

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That would be because Carter failed at everything he did, just like Barack O'Carter will if he's elected. The Hostages were let go because they feared Reagan. They knew he would send the entire 1st Infantry Division with air support to go get those folks. The United States has the MOST sophisticated military in the world bar none and have for a long time, we just don't act like it. As fanatical and true to the code of Bushido as Japan was during WWII, they gave up in the face of annihilation. Too bad we don't have leaders like that anymore. Obama, like Jimmy Carter believes if you kiss their behinds enough, eventually they will stop being bad, 444 days as hostages says different.
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That's so un-factual it doesn't even deserve a rebuttal.
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That's so un-factual it doesn't even deserve a rebuttal.

But yet, you gave one anyway. Tell me. You don't think the Cats were being prophetic when they belted this out?
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Well besides your post not making sense half-way through it, what does an American band in London have to do with lyrics directed at Persians? If anything its directed at western countries (or americans, since that's who was captured) like I "purported" earlier.

As for the guy rushing the stage... happens at rock concerts all the time...
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it doesn't necessarily mean a clash of civilizations.
The clash has been going on for hundreds of years.

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As for a clash of cultures happening "back then", I agree, but I hardly think this song was directed at revolutionary Iranians that had banned all western music. Not a very large market if you know what I mean.
Perhaps it was just meant for members of Western Civilization. They also mentioned the Soviet Union, not considered Western and not now considered Western civilization. So maybe Socialists should change their labels.
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Cmon now Obamalacchians I was hoping to raise some of your ire.
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Couldn't stand listening to the song so here are the lyrics for anyone not in the mood for a headache:

Fifteen man taken captive in a hostile foreign land
Scorchin' sun beaming down onto miles and miles of sand
A mideast country being ruled
By a man who thinks it's fun
To hold our people in return
For a sjah that's on the run

I think it's funny
Freedom takes money

It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough (*)(*)(*)(*)
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' down you and me

Scourge of suits in control
Of the diplomaticness
While the nations of the world
Look on and they care less
The Soviet Union won't agree
To an economic plan
And then they laugh and march their troops into Afghanistan

Orders from Moscow
Invade Teheran now

It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough (*)(*)(*)(*)
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' at you and me

A nation worries and reads the papers
Hoping that no-one has died
Hearin' rumours that the hostages
Will soon be tried as spies
Demonstrations on the street
Saying that the end is near
The man from New York Times on vacation
Wants to know what happened here

Agressive acts now
We want the best now
Fifteen moms crying
Is my son dying ?

It's a heartache and it's hard luck
Well that's tough (*)(*)(*)(*)
Man it's no fun
Storm the Iranian embassy
Before they start shootin' at you and me


Pretty useless lyrics if you ask me. Storming the embassy in Tehran didn't do crap while using diplomacy and negotiations actually solved the whole mess.
Those lyrics you posted from whatever site you did not cite are wrong.
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haha watch it again
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