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Old 06-26-2008, 09:51 AM
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I personally think there is a life skills class (no not home-ec) that needs to be implemented. That would be something like a personal life management course. It would teach people how to use a credit card properly with out going into debt. It would teach them how to take out a loan to buy a home. It would teach them how to start a business. It would teach them how to rent, and its disadvantages and advantages. It would teach them how to get a good job, or how to get a good entry level job, and how to gain experience over time. How to research the things they're into and turn those things into money making opportunities. Teach them a lot about unions. People skills.

However, the basics would be about personal financing: insurance, retirement, personal book keeping and credit management.

I think these are the things that most Americans cannot do right now.
Spot on. And they should make it required in post secondary as well.
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I'm sure the credit companies are brib--- I mean lobbying our senators to keep this stuff out of the classroom.
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life skills training is useful to everyone, and is something that is not being routinely learned in the home as it once was

two other components should be included:

how to file taxes

situational awareness ... admittedly, this one is a tough nut ... but i dare you to think of a successful person you know who is without an understanding of situational awareness. interestingly, one cannot be a decent baseball player without it
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life skills training is useful to everyone, and is something that is not being routinely learned in the home as it once was
Bingo!
And part of the problem is that a lot of parents don't get this stuff themselves. There's a huge knowledge gap.

And really that's a bigger issue than a class in school can tackle... It's like expecting classes to teach morality.
The class is a good idea, but it's not enough in and of itself.
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The closest I came to this was an accounting class in high school. Unfortunately, they royally failed to correlate any of it to "real-world" scenarios. The students were basically miniature "bookkeepers" for imaginary businesses, with imaginary numbers.
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I think some schools do that. The problem is mostly that it's hard to get kids, who do not have a developed sense for risk-management, interested and focused... and actually treating it like learning a life skill rather than treating as another subject they need to pass a test on.
They should definitely have more classes like this, but just having them isn't enough. They need to figure out a way to make it interesting and make sure it is reinforced for at least a few years... It couldn't work as a half-year elective.
Ideally it should also be tied into classes like mathematics, civics, and some electives little bits at a time.
No they don't. They don't do that for any other class.
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Spot on. And they should make it required in post secondary as well.
I honestly think they wont get it. This will be more like learning about politics in school, it's more of an assignment, but I eventually got interested, and when the time came I knew how to look up the information.
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The closest I came to this was an accounting class in high school. Unfortunately, they royally failed to correlate any of it to "real-world" scenarios. The students were basically miniature "bookkeepers" for imaginary businesses, with imaginary numbers.
Me too, but I had a great accounting teacher and I'm going to school for accounting now. The life lessons I learned came from the teacher's rabeling, not so much the class, and all I really got was a grasp of insurance. I already read a book about personal finance, which explained that health insurance is the first expense you must make - before a house or car. You cannot work with out your health. I also got a small amount of credit card education from my economics class, and that was the only thing that was actually required of me.
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My high school had this for everybody. I remember them teaching everyone how to properly write a check(so that the person you wrote it to can't just add a little zero on the end.) I remember it also covered interest repeatedly in excruciating detail (in probably a vain attempt to make people not rack up credit card debt) and either that or something else covered careers.

It didn't cover starting a business.

However my college had different variants on business degrees that dealt with starting different types of businesses. I remember hotel and resturant management was almost its own thing.

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No they don't. They don't do that for any other class.
So you have been to all schools across the country now and surveyed every class?
My, that's thorough.
I could have sworn I've read about them in some charter schools and that my own junior high school made a crude and half-hearted attempt at it... but I guess it must all be a delusion.
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