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Arguably, creating future people is very selfish of you, no?
As opposed to you wanting to keep all our resources for yourself?
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A person cannot reproduce, whether selfishly or not.
Yes, obviously they need another person, but if they THEMSELVES (this one person we're talking about) embraces scenario "A", 2 million people will likely not suck the earth's resources vs. if they embrace scenario "B".

The earth's population is exploding, and we need to take responsibility of it NOW.
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As opposed to you wanting to keep all our resources for yourself?
Uh, no. There just aren't really enough resources to go around NOW. Well, at least not in the next, I'm thinking, 25 years or so.

I think the earth can handle around 7 billion people, and we're at around 6.5 billion right now.
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Uh, no. There just aren't really enough resources to go around NOW.
Says who?


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........ I'm thinking,
I have seen no evidence of that so far.


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25 years or so.
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I think the earth can handle around 7 billion people,
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and we're at around 6.5 billion right now.
But if each couple only has 2 offspring, in 500 years the human population would be exactly the same as it is now.


Do you hate people? Or do you just think you're the only person who deserves to live and use up all of our resources?

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Yes, obviously they need another person, but if they THEMSELVES (this one person we're talking about) embraces scenario "A", 2 million people will likely not suck the earth's resources vs. if they embrace scenario "B".

The earth's population is exploding, and we need to take responsibility of it NOW.
So you're OK with each couple having 2 kids, just not 4?
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Do you hate people? Or do you just think you're the only person who deserves to live and use up all of our resources?
No, I just don't want to see one person's selfish actions lead to 2 million more people sucking up the earth's resources, when all they have to do is responsibly (for the environment) use a condom.

You simply aren't aware of some population projections that some intelligent people are doing. The population is EXPLODING...faster than ever before!

Better health care (a good thing, of course!) is one reason. Religion is another. I'd like to see folks, as a start, embrace democratic Secular Humanism, which would remove religious reasons for having lots of kids.

You DON'T seem to think we are running out of food (it's starting in less wealthy countries, as we speak.) Or won't you see that until YOU PERSONALLY start to run out of food, and the rest of the world is not a real concern to you?
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1. Google "worldwide food shortage"...
2. Then pick reputable sources, and read up.
3. Then go get your tubes tied or get a vasectomy.
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So you're OK with each couple having 2 kids, just not 4?
2 is MUCH BETTER than 3....just run the numbers on a spreadsheet, it will blow your mind!

Actually, if in the future, due to lower levels of unprotected fornication, the earth's population can DECREASE over time, that would be great.
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No, I just don't want to see one person's selfish actions lead to 2 million more people sucking up the earth's resources,
That's what the resources are there for!!! How many of those resources are you 'sucking up'?




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when all they have to do is responsibly (for the environment) use a condom.
I'm pretty sure a field of corn could care less what type of contraceptive you use.



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You simply aren't aware of some population projections that some intelligent people are doing.
Ah, for a minute I thought we were talking about YOUR projections. Thanks for clearing that up.


And if they are so intelligent, why does simple math elude them?




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The population is EXPLODING...faster than ever before!
I blame the negroes, the chinks and the wetba...um...mexicans.



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Better health care (a good thing, of course!) is one reason. Religion is another. I'd like to see folks, as a start, embrace democratic Secular Humanism, which would remove religious reasons for having lots of kids.
I'll make a deal with you, you libs keep aborting your children and us Conservatives will do all the populating.



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You DON'T seem to think we are running out of food
Food is a renewable resource, according to studies done by 'intelligent people'.



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(it's starting in less wealthy countries, as we speak.)
So it's not food that's running out, but money to purchase that food. Capitalism will fix that.



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Or won't you see that until YOU PERSONALLY start to run out of food,
Ain't gonna happen.


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and the rest of the world is not a real concern to you?
Nope. Not unless they try to take my food, then I just want them dead. But hey, you should be happy if we kill lots of people. Isn't that the ultimate solution to your problem?
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Food shortages in the world are just ONE of the problems with over-population. Environmental damage is yet another. What can you do to help? Visit the group that has the article below, for one thing. Help discredit Islam and Islamic culture, for another.



From http://www.crs.org/egypt/worldwide-food-crisis/

CRS Food Experts Warn of Impending 'Cascade of Hunger'

The recent skyrocketing cost of food staples around the world is making national and international headlines. The crisis is prompting economists, agronomists, finance ministers and heads of state to come up with immediate and long-term solutions so that more widespread price increases are averted and increasing discontent is mitigated.

"What we are seeing is unprecedented," says Catholic Relief Services food aid expert Lisa Kuennen-Asfaw. "If immediate needs are not met, and if resources and policies supporting increased agricultural production are not put in place soon, we are heading for a cascade of hunger the world over."

Prices are increasing sharply in every region of the world for some of the most basic foodstuffs traded on international commodity markets. The price of wheat has doubled in less than a year, while other staples such as corn, maize and soy are trading at well above their 1990s levels. Rice, which is the staple food for about 3 billion people worldwide, has tripled in cost in the last 18 months. In some countries, prices for milk and meat have more than doubled.
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