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...How many of those resources are you 'sucking up'?....
I'm not talking about killing people, isn't that obvious? I'm talking about practicing responsible population management techniques, like voluntary vasectomies, and voluntarily limiting family size to very low levels, to help our environment, by reducing the number of FUTURE PEOPLE.
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2 is MUCH BETTER than 3....just run the numbers on a spreadsheet, it will blow your mind!

Actually, if in the future, due to lower levels of unprotected fornication, the earth's population can DECREASE over time, that would be great.
Sorry dude, I just gotta go 'natural', if you know what I'm sayin'.......but feel free to wrap yours in whatever way you see fit.
Or are you gay, that would explain a lot......

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Food shortages in the world are just ONE of the problems with over-population. Environmental damage is yet another. What can you do to help? Visit the group that has the article below, for one thing. Help discredit Islam and Islamic culture, for another.



From http://www.crs.org/egypt/worldwide-food-crisis/

CRS Food Experts Warn of Impending 'Cascade of Hunger'

The recent skyrocketing cost of food staples around the world is making national and international headlines. The crisis is prompting economists, agronomists, finance ministers and heads of state to come up with immediate and long-term solutions so that more widespread price increases are averted and increasing discontent is mitigated.

"What we are seeing is unprecedented," says Catholic Relief Services food aid expert Lisa Kuennen-Asfaw. "If immediate needs are not met, and if resources and policies supporting increased agricultural production are not put in place soon, we are heading for a cascade of hunger the world over."

Prices are increasing sharply in every region of the world for some of the most basic foodstuffs traded on international commodity markets. The price of wheat has doubled in less than a year, while other staples such as corn, maize and soy are trading at well above their 1990s levels. Rice, which is the staple food for about 3 billion people worldwide, has tripled in cost in the last 18 months. In some countries, prices for milk and meat have more than doubled.
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That's primarily because of rising oil prices. Drill for more oil and the price of food will come down.


Cheaper food is what you want, right??????
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I'm not talking about killing people, isn't that obvious? I'm talking about practicing responsible population management techniques, like voluntary vasectomies, and voluntarily limiting family size to very low levels, to help our environment, by reducing the number of FUTURE PEOPLE.
Are you saying that the environment is more important than people?
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Nope. Not unless they try to take my food, then I just want them dead. But hey, you should be happy if we kill lots of people. Isn't that the ultimate solution to your problem?
When you wrote "Nope", above, it basically shows that you are possibly a selfish person.

The rest of your statement above is just ridiculous, please quit insulting my intelligence. "NOT CONCEIVED" is different than "KILLED".

Wars, genocide, abortions, capital punishment (such as in Islam for having sex outside of marriage, or criticizing Mohammad, or leaving Islam), etc. are not what is being proposed here. Condoms, yes, killing, no.
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Are you saying that the environment is more important than people?
I'm saying that someone doesn't have to be selfish and be responsible for millions of FUTURE PEOPLE.

You aren't an environmentalist, I can tell (nothing wrong with that, as such, I guess.) But people who do care about the environment are starting to come around to our way of thinking.
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When you wrote "Nope", above, it basically shows that you are possibly a selfish person.
No, I'm not selfish, I just give a flying crap about 'the rest of the world'. Screw 'em, most people on this planet hate America. I hope they all starve to death because they are too stupid to fight for their own freedom, liberty and capitalism instead of trying to take from me and my fellow citizens what we have worked hard for and fought to retain.

SCREW THEM!



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The rest of your statement above is just ridiculous, please quit insulting my intelligence.
You're doing a fine job of that yourself, you don't need my help.



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"NOT CONCEIVED" is different than "KILLED".
But if it's less people you want, what's the difference on how you attain your goal?


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Wars, genocide, abortions, capital punishment (such as in Islam for having sex outside of marriage, or criticizing Mohammad, or leaving Islam), etc. are not what is being proposed here. Condoms, yes, killing, no.
You call me selfish while you wanna tell everybody else not to have children because you want all the Earth's natural resources for yourself?
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Brave, self-less people doing the right thing, to help YOUR environment, BillyBob! A much better solution would have been for her to not get pregnant in the first place, however.




From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...-friendly.html

Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco friendly
By NATASHA COURTENAY-SMITH and MORAG TURNER
Last updated at 22:05 21 November 2007
Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she would know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a pair of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy.
But the very thought makes her shudder with horror.

Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief she was helping to save the planet.

Desperate measures: Toni Vernelli was steralised at age 27 to reduce her carbon footprint

Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible "mistake" of pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time.

He refused, but Toni - who works for an environmental charity - "relentlessly hunted down a doctor who would perform the irreversible surgery.

Finally, eight years ago, Toni got her way.

At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years was sterilised to "protect the planet".

Incredibly, instead of mourning the loss of a family that never was, her boyfriend (now husband) presented her with a congratulations card.

While some might think it strange to celebrate the reversal of nature and denial of motherhood, Toni relishes her decision with an almost religious zeal.

"Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line at the expense of the planet," says Toni, 35.

"Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population."

While most parents view their children as the ultimate miracle of nature, Toni seems to see them as a sinister threat to the future.

It's an extreme stance which one might imagine is born from an unhappy childhood or an upbringing among parents who share similar, strong beliefs.
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No, I'm not selfish, I just give a flying crap about 'the rest of the world'. Screw 'em, most people on this planet hate America. I hope they all starve to death because they are too stupid to fight for their own freedom, liberty and capitalism instead of trying to take from me and my fellow citizens what we have worked hard for and fought to retain.

SCREW THEM!





You're doing a fine job of that yourself, you don't need my help.





But if it's less people you want, what's the difference on how you attain your goal?




You call me selfish while you wanna tell everybody else not to have children because you want all the Earth's natural resources for yourself?
I honestly think you are either drunk right now or live on an Arayan Nation compound in Idaho somewhere (no offense.)
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I'm saying that someone doesn't have to be selfish and be responsible for millions of FUTURE PEOPLE.
Fighting for freedom, liberty and capitalism is the best thing any person can give to the millions of future Americans.


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You aren't an environmentalist, I can tell (nothing wrong with that, as such, I guess.)

Exactly what is an 'environmentalist'?

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But people who do care about the environment are starting to come around to our way of thinking.
Which is what, trees matter more than people?
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