Alright! Why is the "bearing arms" amendment the most important one? I've heard quite a bit of that phrase but no substance since I've been coming to this forum.

Stop with the, 'lip service'. Vent your beliefs, back them up with facts stemming from the American way of life, then, watch how badly you're verbally slapped up-side your heads if U believe in it or U don't. Please make sure all of U who participate pays attention on what is called, , , a time-table.

This will make for some very, Very stimulating debate. Wouldn't U agree?

I'm up first. (I kinda like to keep this a 'family atmosphere', U understand. . . )

Anyone who thinks that that firearm they own will help keep the govt. or whoever else from abusing their 1st, 2nd, 5th and 14th Amendments, well, , , U need to watch an episode of COPS. U also need to take a lesson on first grade education when it comes to spelling the word, "GUN".

What's the message on a show like that or on any show of the like for that matter?

You're DANGEROUS if U have a gun. Plain n simple, nothing to debate there.

Slam your arse to the ground. Tell U to stop resisting while they're breaking your arms. Then, , , tell U it's for your safety and theirs.

"Sorry Sir, I'm just practicing my civil rights".

"Do U have a permit for this?"

"Yes Sir, I do"

"Sorry, guy/madame, but this is a license just to purchase this weapon. It doesn't give U permission to chase someone down the street who came at U and your kids with a baseball bat while after the fact U shoot him in the arse. You're under arrest."

At least that's the way it goes in my state.

For those of U who want to cry about, "this is what the liberals have done to the second amendment".

Stowe-It already.

The liberals want to eliminate "arms" altogether. The conservatives on the other hand want to allow U to have them, then put arbitrary restrictions on them just so they can lock U up. When it comes to the rule of law, liberals want to eliminate it to a point that there's no doubt. Whereas, conservatives, well, they want to confuse the issue(s). They want to confuse them wherein they are legally allowed to prey on their own society. Better yet, they want everyone to be a lawyer.

Gotta LOVE the Elite, huh?

Tell me I don't know what I'm talking about all U want, but it's true. Where in the world can U find a govt. who tells U that U can't paddle your child's arse (liberal) while at the same time telling U, U can (conservative)? Those parents out there who believe that mom & dad are and is the outcome of their children know what the freak I'm talking about.

This wretched social watch we call government has spit this country in two. It has taken our civil values and made them a bad word.

Cop comes to my house and ask' me if I mind if he/they search it. . . Sorry, officer. Ever heard of a warrant? U might find my pistol or rifle with a bullet in the chamber and I don't want my freaking arms broken in the process of U finding out the truth on the matter, , , alright?

Sounds fair, huh?

"Well, smart-arse. We'll just get a K-9".

Whoops!!! I can't win. And neither can any one of U.

It's the LAW.

Guns are problematic.

Reason?

We're dealing with a society who's allowed their government to eliminated firearms and their intent within a legal manner without there even being a second place.

Call your congressman, LMAO.

NEXT!!!

What if I don't think the 2A is the most important?

What if I think it's the 1A, in which case the fact we're on here practicing it and it provides the ability to argue about the 2A makes my case very strong.

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Understood.

Just trying to be a little objective. I've always noticed what stirs the pot the most.

U understand.

Please, Sir. Participate. I'd love to know and hear what U think.

The Second Amendment does not grant any rights. Whatever rights that are protected under the Second Amendment, whether individual or collective, are subject to law; which is to say that they are not unlimited, much less absolute.

To ellaborate on your point Nemo, neither the Constitution nor the BoR grant us any rights, they merely secure our inalienable right to which we are endowed by out creators.

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I’ve read some insane commentary here, but this thread tops the list. Hardly worthy of response, but since I’m bored at the moment, why not instigate the insanity?

What kind of a fool does it take to not understand that a “gun” is an inanimate object and of itself isn’t “dangerous?”

First, it takes human hands to put ammunition into a gun.

Second, it takes a human to operate the functions of a gun.

Third, a gun can be used by a human for a criminal activity or self defense, (an inalienable right).

Thus, guns aren’t dangerous, only “humans” are dangerous with a gun. Thank God that criminals understand that attacking a human that has a gun can be and most often is “dangerous” to the criminal’s health.

A gun in the hand beats the crap out of a cop on the phone.

Thank God that our founders understood that an “armed” population was the greatest deterrent to tyranny in government.

The second Amendment is the most important because it’s the “protector” of every other amendment and constitutional article.

There are no unalienable rights. And, for those that want to rely on God for their rights, they will have to wait to take their case before that authority.

U strong-arm everything, yet give no substance.

Why, <<< Mod Edit: Personal Insult Removed >>>?

I am really not talking about "rights".

Mainly, I'm talking about what everyone thinks with the caveat that the Constitution is the GREATEST document known to mankind.

Why is that so hard?

What everyone thinks about the Constitution does not matter. It is what the Supreme Court says about it that counts.