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It's a bummer when the truth bubbles to the surface...

Do you remember when Valerie Plame sent her husband Joe Wilson to Niger?

Although she denied it several times, Plame did indeed come up with the idea that her husband would be an ideal candidate to sort out the Niger/Iraq uranium sale question.

In fact, here's a copy of the memo-- http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...ission_to.html
An unclassified government document, the Carl Ford Jr. memo had this to say about sending Joe Wilson to Niger: http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/fordmemo.pdf



Here's a closeup of the document...
http://www.truthout.org/imgs.art_01/fordmemo.pdf


And, here's the transcript from the memo:


Notes: Niger/Iraq uranium meeting CIA 2/19/02

Meeting apparently convened by Valerie Wilson, a CIA WMD managerial type and the wife of Amb. Joe Wilson, with the idea that the agency and the larger USG could dispatch Joe to Niger to use his contacts there to sort out the Niger/Iraq uranium sale question. Joe went to Niger in late 1999 in regard to Niger's uranium program, apparently with CIA support.
Valerie Plame sent Joe.

A month before Robert Novak wrote his column, Ambassador Joseph Wilson spoke out against the Bush Administration http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/20...eech-that.html and Israel at the Far-Left 2003 IRAQ FORUM Conference. http://www.epic-usa.org/Default.aspx...68&showlogin=1
The audio is still posted HERE (40:38 in duration) http://next.epic-usa.org/epicdev2/_m...-wilson-32.m3u

In his speech, Joseph Wilson described himself as the investigator sent to Niger by the government and says the government sent him there and not the CIA (a lie http://www.senate.gov/Senate404.html ). Wilson said there was nothing to the uranium story (another lie http://www.butlerreview.org.uk/news/launchstatement.pdf ), described the US as "occupiers" of Iraq (a shocking statement at the time), and described a conspiracy to help Israel dominate the Palestinians.

Joe Wilson repeated the lie for several years that the Iraq was not seeking uranium from Niger even though five days after Wilson's NYT op-ed, George Tenet put out a statement http://powerlineblog.com/archives/012154.php describing how the person the CIA sent to check out the Niger story (Joe Wilson) found that the Iraqis had indeed tried to open up trade talks, which were interpretted by government officials in Niger as an attempt to purchase uranium ore.

And, then there is this news from yesterday...
The AP reported that the last load of Saddam's uranium was shipped to Canada: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...e_mission.html


The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

The removal of 550 metric tons of “yellowcake” - the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment - was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam’s nuclear legacy.
It's a bummer about all of that yellow cake.
It must suck being Joe Wilson today.

Don Surber has more on how George W. Bush saved the world. http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber...ved-the-world/

American Thinker has more on Saddam's unreported nuke program.
** Is anyone else wondering why the Bush Administration is not making a big stink out of this? http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...confirmed.html

Jeff Goldstein on Saddam to Joe Wilson-- "You've got punked!" http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=12738

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did she lie under oath?
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did she lie under oath?
She sure did. But since attacking her will only make Presedent Bush look good, congress will pay no mind to it! none what so ever! Because it makes them look incompetant. As if they needed any help!

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Sorry, Toby, but the memo does not match the "transcript" you posted. Lots of discrepencies. Hmmm... Where did you get your "transcript"? Maybe something you cribbed from some right-wing website...???
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Whoever this blahgger is, he's still buying the uranium lie, even after everyone, including the White House and the CIA said it was BS:

http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_wo...q_uranium.html

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Fleischer: Now, we've long acknowledged -- and this is old news, we've said this repeatedly -- that the information on yellow cake did, indeed, turn out to be incorrect.

And soon after, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice acknowledged that the 16 words were, in retrospect, a mistake. She said during a July 11, 2003 White House press briefing:

Rice: What we've said subsequently is, knowing what we now know, that some of the Niger documents were apparently forged, we wouldn't have put this in the President's speech.

That same day, CIA Director George Tenet took personal responsibility for the appearance of the 16 words in Bush's speech:

Tenet: These 16 words should never have been included in the text written for the President.
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Whoever this blahgger is, he's still buying the uranium lie, even after everyone, including the White House and the CIA said it was BS:

http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_wo...q_uranium.html
Last updated July 6, 2008 1:45 a.m. PT

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation...e_mission.html

In a Monday June 9, 2003 file photo, UN inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) work at the nuclear facility in Tuwaitha, Iraq, 50 kms east of Baghdad. The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program - a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium - reached a Canadian port Saturday, July 5, 2008, to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans. (AP Photo/Saurabh Das, file)

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Sorry, Toby, but the memo does not match the "transcript" you posted. Lots of discrepencies. Hmmm... Where did you get your "transcript"? Maybe something you cribbed from some right-wing website...???
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Toby, Toby...c'mon, don't be evasive. Your "transcript" does not match this memo.

Maybe you should retract your "transcript" .. you know, in the name of honesty and integrity.
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Toby, Toby...c'mon, don't be evasive. Your "transcript" does not match this memo.

Maybe you should retract your "transcript" .. you know, in the name of honesty and integrity.
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Toby, this is at least the third thread with misleading info about uranium, and you've been shown the truth on everyone. stop with the lies please.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=5316183
ABC noting that the yellowcake was known about years ago because Saddam declared it to inspectors, who guarded it. All the yellowcake dated from before 1991.
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