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Somalia was H's bleedingheart humanitarian mission that WJC pulled the plug on..
Pulled the plug on, hehehehe, now that is funny! He ran away with his tail tucked! Bin Laden has said in direct interviews that it was that act alone that emboldened him to think he could launch something like 911 successfully!

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Bosnia turned into the Kosovo Airwar, the successful culmination of AirForce doctrine.. the first war in human history that was won via air power alone.
Which btw, was a war WJC started and finished with minimal loses on both sides.
We still have soldiers serving in Bosnia! Why is that different than McCain saying we might have soldiers in Iraq for many years? Please explain!
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"Wag the Dog!" -1990s Republican battlecry against UBL/AQ

Apparently the far-right thought it more important to investigate a blowjob between consenting adults rather than look into looming terrorist threats.
Apparently the left thought it was more important for Willie to spend his time chasing fat interns around the oval office and staining their dresses than to actually pay attention to terror threats!
Who is getting a blowjobs seems like a priority for ya, Wha17. Jealous much?

Btw, I can produce quotes and documents from 1990s D politicians highlighting the threat of UBL/AQ. Can you do the same of the 1990's Republican politicians? Probably not, since the far-right was fixated on a blowjob.


So anyhooo instead of cooperating, the USA was treated to more D & R Boomers going through their decades long psycho-drama. crazy old perverts.
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They certainly haven't been positive for the Democratic Party base! The union and other factory workers whose jobs have gone away to other countries and who can only find jobs flipping burgers now because they have no real skills or education.
Very few job losses actually have to do with NAFTA. And engagement with China was a lot better than the alternative.
I think the Democrats should be honest about NAFTA and use it to highlight policies of safety nets and education programs to make globalization less painful for the workers.
After all the Republicans aren't going to do them any better.

But the Party is caught up in traditional pandering to the protectionist fears of unionists... but either way, Clinton's contributions you point out were positive.
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Btw, I can produce quotes and documents from 1990s D politicians highlighting the threat of UBL/AQ.
So what did Slick do with those? Well? We are waiting...tick tock...
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Very few job losses actually have to do with NAFTA. And engagement with China was a lot better than the alternative.
I think the Democrats should be honest about NAFTA and use it to highlight policies of safety nets and education programs to make globalization less painful for the workers.
After all the Republicans aren't going to do them any better.

But the Party is caught up in traditional pandering to the protectionist fears of unionists... but either way, Clinton's contributions you point out were positive.
In your opinion obviously!
If they are so positive, why is Obama distancing himself from supporting NAFTA? What is positive about China taking away manufacturing jobs from U.S. Workers? I am not saying Republicans would have done anything different, but they never lied to American factory workers and told them they are looking out for their interests like Democrats have for decades!
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We are waiting...tick tock...

"Wag the Dog!" - 1990s Republicans whining for blowjobs when bubba did go after AQ. perverts.
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Yup. And he left a surplus for Bush to (*)(*)(*)(*) away on taxcuts for the rich.

And he gave us Ruthie, a gift that keeps on giving.

There was a reason he left office with 65% approval rating.

What no one sees is that the massive fraud that was the dot com bubble which Clinton allowed to happen by putting his cronies in to all the regulatory agencies and then telling them not to enforce any business laws, known in the business community as the no rules 90's, destroyed many small business in other industries.
Being in the food business I can tell you it was a bloodbath. All the big food companies went into the supermarkets and bought up 100% of the shelf space in their product category. This is called slotting. 100% ownership of any market is anti trust and is not legal. The small guys myself included demanded that the laws be enforced but Clinton’s people did nothing and didn’t give a (*)(*)(*)(*). When there were two big corporations in food section they went back and forth buying up 100% of the shelf space until all the little guys where bled to death. Little guys are 100m or less in sales.
The perfect example is in the salty snack food section, potato chips, Frito Lay went from 50% market share to 100% market share under Clinton killing 20 companies in the process. It wasn’t until Bush came in that his people force Frito Lay to back off, now they own 80% of the market for all salty snack foods. This is typical of the bloodbath that Clinton caused so he could look good on TV.
We are all paying for Clinton and his Dot Com bubble.err scam, fraud are much better names for it. When the bubble burst most of the money that was lost came from the pensions funds. Since that time the pension funds are desperately trying to recapitalize before the baby boomers retire and are the driving force behind the rise in oil. The pension funds are engage in high stakes gambling they are that desperate. When you pay $4.50 for a gallon of gas you are recapitalizing the pension funds.
And Bosnia it turns out there was no genocide going on. He invaded a country because the TV said genocide was happening. Good president does what ever it takes to look good on TV. Hell of a way to run a country.
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actually the strongest period of economic growth has come under this administration 54 months to be exact. clinton did handle the economy once newt took over congress and clinton did work well with them. bosnia was necessary but he screwed up royally in somalia.
most of all the successes of the clintons were conservative things such as nafta which conservatives support b/c after all it is free trade and thanks to working well with congress he did emplement well form reform. clinton did several things positive but it took the gop lead congress to kick him in the butt.

economics has a lot to do with events in the world and timing. clinton was helped by the .com bubble which his administration had no control of, actually his VP did invent the Internet.

on the bad side he was a personal disgrace to the office not only for monica but several scandels, he didn't do anything to stop terrorism after the first trade center attack and the USS Cole.

also remember WACO.

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"Wag the Dog!" - 1990s Republicans whining for blowjobs when bubba did go after AQ. perverts.
Bubba went after AQ? When? Where?
Lying and running just doesn't cut it here.

Proof please!
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actually the strongest period of economic growth has come under this administration 54 months to be exact. clinton did handle the economy once newt took over congress and clinton did work well with them. bosnia was necessary but he screwed up royally in somalia.
most of all the successes of the clintons were conservative things such as nafta which conservatives support b/c after all it is free trade and thanks to working well with congress he did emplement well form reform. clinton did several things positive but it took the gop lead congress to kick him in the butt.

economics has a lot to do with events in the world and timing. clinton was helped by the .com bubble which his administration had no control of, actually his VP did invent the Internet.

on the bad side he was a personal disgrace to the office not only for monica but several scandels, he didn't do anything to stop terrorism after the first trade center attack and the USS Cole.

also remember WACO.
I agree! Clinton's only successes were really GOP initiatives that he rode their coat tail on.
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