You must be confusing me with someone else. Where did I use that term?

No, I have not. If either gentlemen proves me wrong, I will give them their due.

And then I will enjoy listening to their supporters argue about it!

Rise above them by sticking to the issues, not by casting equal but opposite aspersions

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Los Angeles voters=dumber than rocks.

Oh, so you are passing judgment and waiting. I'll just wait.

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the American people want out, the iraqi people want us out, now the iraqi government wants us out ... who is insisting that we stay the course?

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Lets not worry about what the majority of the people in a country that isn't yet a well oiled democratic. Lets worry about a country that is democratic, and has overwhelmingly said it wants to get out of the war. How can Bush worry about the majority rule of another country and not his own? Is the USA a "failed state" or something? What is going on? Bush's respect for another country's desires are undercut by ignoring his own country's.

I guess what I'm trying to say is: A more important/suitable title for this thread (when looking at Bush's perspective in particular) is "American wants us out".

“The current trend is to reach an agreement on a memorandum of understanding either for the departure of the forces or to put a timetable on their withdrawal” -Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki


Mission Accomplished! Time to say





If Benjamin was around, he'd have this advice for the republicans; "Guests, like fish, begin to stink after three days."

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Benj also said " well done is better than well said" ...

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That was not said nor even implied.



Pay attention to what the people you are using say instead of trying to make them say what they are not.

read the surveys of the iraqi people
read what the leadership is saying ... i don't believe even you would try to convince us the iraqi PM wants to negotiate a timetable for us to leave and not recognize that they intend for the occupation to end

you might even do something different and share some facts next time instead of a baseless opinion

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"I like to watch the news, because I don't like people very much and when you watch the news ... if you ever had an idea that people were really terrible, you could watch the news and know that you're right."

Frank Zappa