Larry Sinclair Thread

[Greco]

"Now that someone says he is flawed you attack them."

Of course every candidate has flaws. Only a fool would maintain otherwise. Your lack of comprehension skills is showing. I observed that the strategy of trying to draw the election into the gutter, which is the Republican strategy, is a loser for this election. Your claim that I attacked the messenger is a false claim.

False claims seems to be the stock in trade of Republican campaign strategists. The issues, created by the disasterous Bush years loom too large for voters to waste their time on the smears. They want answers, real answers, to the problems and how our nation can reverse the Bush policies. Preachers, wives, convicted felons, and all the Republican "muslim" e-mails aren't working.

It's the issues this election. McCain represents a continuance of policies Americans want changed. That's a problem for Republicans, so they revert to their usual lies, distortions and smears. It's all they've got.

[sisterrosetta]

Please see:

sisterrosetta Says:
May 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm

Hello, zach jones

Please see following link for info regarding Larry’s polygraph. I have literally been posting this link for months now. And yet I still keep reading that Larry failed twice. Balderdash!

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/fo...=12036%2081407

On Page 2:
“I also evaluated the second series using the computer algorithm PolyScore (v. 6.0). It evaluated the charts as No Deception Indicated, and calculated the probabilityof deception as being less than .01 on a scale from .00 to 1.00.”
“So the PolyScore algorithm (that Ed Gelb so hailed in his polygraph report for Wendy Ellis) found Sinclair truthful with a less than 1% probability of deception! But in this case, Gelb and Barland (who cannot have been unaware of the firestorm of controversy that would have resulted had they found Sinclair non-deceptive with regard to this question) somehow reached a completely opposite conclusion!”

One commenter wrote that Larry had been sandbagged. Indeed, he was.

You may also find this of interest:

Trinity people aren't speaking up either because they don't want to be the one to stop the first black president or they are scared to talk.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/d...ad.php?t=18616

HillBuzzBlogspotCom wrote:

June 30th, 04:15 PM

Adrienne -

I told you exactly what I have been told by people in the gay community here who have said there are definite open secrets about BHO. I've never remarked on the Sinclair stuff for one solid reason: it does not make sense with what the gay community in Chicago tells me. Not saying it couldn't be true, but that's not BHOs' M.O. here.

Being on the down-low means you only fool around with other married guys on the down-low, and there are enough successful, wealthy down-low members of Trinity, who are married, and thus have as much to lose if they rat out the other guy who is on the downlow. Some are athletes, some are other high profile men in the community, and some are not even members of the church, but elected officials themselves, in other states (that start with "M", like in Michelle) or other cities (that start with "B", like in beard).

The people I have spoken to who know Trinity well, and know open secrets well, say people aren't speaking up either because they don't want to be the one to stop the first black president or they are scared to talk....HOWEVER, they said they are positive that, after he would become President, that the open secret will no longer be a secret, and that the carefully-arranged down-low secret pacts will collapse, because the media will have an incentive to create the most sensational sex scandal to ever hit the White House: the first bisexual president.

In short --- and let's see if this clears things up --- there are people who know open-secrets who are staying quiet because outing a presidential candidate is not something they want to do, but outing a president, and exposing him as a bisexual, would be something they'd see as important, because it's a step towards having an openly gay president.

Think James McGreevey....yes, his administration collapsed when he came out, and he came out only because his affair was being telegraphed, but McGreevey still served, briefly, as an openly gay US governor. That's a step towards having other openly gay governors in the future -- ones not tainted with scandal, preferably. Outing Obama as a candidate will keep him from being elected....outing him if he becomes President means the US will have its first outed bisexual/gay president.

There is no putting that genie back in its bottle.

I don't agree with any of this Adrienne....I am just telling you what I hear on a regular basis here in Chicago.

[lavell12]

Originally Posted by Decker

These are the fruits of republican politicking.

They tried to portray Clinton as a coked-up rapist and traitor to his country.

They tried to portray Gore as some deranged serial liar.

They tried to portray Kerry as a coward and traitor to the flag...and flip flopper.

This is the level of discourse in our country thanks to the republicans.

Thanks again for the Impeachment of Clinton guys.

you make it sound as if it is one sided.

god knows what the left has said about bush.

[farmer_fred]

Originally Posted by lavell12

you make it sound as if it is one sided.

god knows what the left has said about bush.

But the left didn't have to make it up, or worse, enlist the aid of some druggy felon liar.

(is drunk driving a felony?).

[Decker]

Originally Posted by sisterrosetta

Please see:

sisterrosetta Says:
May 23, 2008 at 9:16 pm

Hello, zach jones

Please see following link for info regarding Larry’s polygraph. I have literally been posting this link for months now. And yet I still keep reading that Larry failed twice. Balderdash!

https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/fo...=12036%2081407

On Page 2:
“I also evaluated the second series using the computer algorithm PolyScore (v. 6.0). It evaluated the charts as No Deception Indicated, and calculated the probabilityof deception as being less than .01 on a scale from .00 to 1.00.”
“So the PolyScore algorithm (that Ed Gelb so hailed in his polygraph report for Wendy Ellis) found Sinclair truthful with a less than 1% probability of deception! But in this case, Gelb and Barland (who cannot have been unaware of the firestorm of controversy that would have resulted had they found Sinclair non-deceptive with regard to this question) somehow reached a completely opposite conclusion!”

One commenter wrote that Larry had been sandbagged. Indeed, he was.

You may also find this of interest:

Trinity people aren't speaking up either because they don't want to be the one to stop the first black president or they are scared to talk.

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/d...ad.php?t=18616

HillBuzzBlogspotCom wrote:

June 30th, 04:15 PM

Adrienne -

I told you exactly what I have been told by people in the gay community here who have said there are definite open secrets about BHO. I've never remarked on the Sinclair stuff for one solid reason: it does not make sense with what the gay community in Chicago tells me. Not saying it couldn't be true, but that's not BHOs' M.O. here.

Being on the down-low means you only fool around with other married guys on the down-low, and there are enough successful, wealthy down-low members of Trinity, who are married, and thus have as much to lose if they rat out the other guy who is on the downlow. Some are athletes, some are other high profile men in the community, and some are not even members of the church, but elected officials themselves, in other states (that start with "M", like in Michelle) or other cities (that start with "B", like in beard).

The people I have spoken to who know Trinity well, and know open secrets well, say people aren't speaking up either because they don't want to be the one to stop the first black president or they are scared to talk....HOWEVER, they said they are positive that, after he would become President, that the open secret will no longer be a secret, and that the carefully-arranged down-low secret pacts will collapse, because the media will have an incentive to create the most sensational sex scandal to ever hit the White House: the first bisexual president.

In short --- and let's see if this clears things up --- there are people who know open-secrets who are staying quiet because outing a presidential candidate is not something they want to do, but outing a president, and exposing him as a bisexual, would be something they'd see as important, because it's a step towards having an openly gay president.

Think James McGreevey....yes, his administration collapsed when he came out, and he came out only because his affair was being telegraphed, but McGreevey still served, briefly, as an openly gay US governor. That's a step towards having other openly gay governors in the future -- ones not tainted with scandal, preferably. Outing Obama as a candidate will keep him from being elected....outing him if he becomes President means the US will have its first outed bisexual/gay president.

There is no putting that genie back in its bottle.

I don't agree with any of this Adrienne....I am just telling you what I hear on a regular basis here in Chicago.

Wow. A polygraph test. That's almost admissible as evidence. Well, not really.

I mean who'd ever think that fabricated ad hominem attacks would occupy republican minds.

Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and now Obama.

[raytri]

Honestly, people. Keep grubbing in the dirt, trafficking in rumor and innuendo, treating unbacked accusations by frauds as fact. All it does is dirty you.

I don't see anyone starting these kind of rumor-shows about McCain. I guess that tells you which side's partisans have more class in this election.

[VolvoDriver]

Originally Posted by raytri

Honestly, people. Keep grubbing in the dirt, trafficking in rumor and innuendo, treating unbacked accusations by frauds as fact. All it does is dirty you.

I don't see anyone starting these kind of rumor-shows about McCain. I guess that tells you which side's partisans have more class in this election.

Now you've done it. In about 30 minutes we'll see a bunch of posts with outlandish accusations about McCain to be blamed on the Obama side.

[siddhartha]

It had been a difficult morning for Sinclair. The Politico's Ben Smith published a short feature on Sinclair's 27-year criminal record of fraud and petty crimes; Greta Van Susteren linked the story, and told viewers/readers why she has ignored him. "While the internet is a great communication and educational tool, it is also viral when it comes to smearing people," she wrote, prompting commenters to call her a cover-up artist and an agent of Barack Obama. It got worse when Sinclair's lawyer Montgomery Sibley—whose license is currently suspended in D.C. and Florida—showed up in a kilt and told reporters that his above-average endowment made slacks tight and uncomfortable. The Rev. James David Manning, who gained web celebrity in April for a YouTube'd sermon in which he called Obama a "long-legged mack daddy," sat in the crowd of 50 or so with his family. He didn't take questions

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"Thank you." Sinclair moved on and Sibley refused to let me ask another question. Why didn't I wait until the end of the press conference and rush up to the accuser? The second Sinclair stopped taking questions, he fled the room and reporters were denied access to anyone but Sibley. I was a little disappointed until I heard the reason. Larry Sinclair was arrested after the press conference and is being held by the Washington, D.C. metropolitan police. He's been charged as a fugitive from justice; one of his warrants can be seen here.

[url="http://www.reason.com/blog/show/127093.html"]

Thanks for the chuckle.

Now, by all means, return to your search for the truth.

[raytri]

Originally Posted by VolvoDriver

Now you've done it. In about 30 minutes we'll see a bunch of posts with outlandish accusations about McCain to be blamed on the Obama side.

Well that's kind of what I was hoping for....

[sisterrosetta]

Tuesday, July 08, 2008

http://redinktexas.blogspot.com/2008...bad-penny.html

EXCERPT

You might recall Larry Sinclair was the person who claimed to have smoked crack and had gay sex with Obama back in 1999. The allegation surfaced back in January 2008 via an infamous YouTube video. At the time it was blown off as a crank who was just out to smear "The Lightworker", probably put up to it by the Clintons, who are not exactly squeamish about playing dirty. Remember Vince Foster's little walk in the park? Well, that bad penny just won't go away. The story refuses to die, and in fact keeps growing and expanding.

According to a sworn affidavit signed by Larry Sinclair, Sinclair contacted Obama's campaign back in September 2007 concerning Obama's statement concerning when he had last used crack cocaine. Sinclair claimed that he felt that it was important that the voters know about Obama's more recent cocaine use. Sinclair wanted Obama to publically admit that he had used cocaine as recently as 1999.

Sinclair claimed that he had made a number of calls that were not returned, then in October 2007, A man identifying himself as Mr. Young called him back and interrogated Sinclair as to who he had told about the encounter and why he had not mentioned the sex angle. Since Sinclair claims to have not mentioned the sex and that Mr Young was the first to broach the subject, this would tend to indicate that Mr Young was well aware of what had happened in that Limo.

A couple weeks later, Sinclair claims that Mr Young called back, and through his tone and content of the conversation, he claims it became clear to him that Mr. Young was not in fact a campaign staffer, but was in fact an intimate of Obama. Further, by this time, Sinclair had moved to Delaware and had not told the Obama Campaign where he had moved to, or how he could be reached, but yet they found him anyway, which indicates that he was the subject of some form of surveillence or investigation, which would seem reasonable given the circumstances.

A week or so later he claims to have recieved a text message from Mr. Young stating that he was intimate with Obama and that he, Obama and Obama's pastor (that would be the infamous Jeremiah Wright) were discussing how to disclose the drug use and that he wanted to ensure that no mention of the incident had been made or would be made to anyone.

Again in November another text message to yet a different undisclosed cell number in yet another state (Minnesota this time) that Obama was going to disclose his drug use and that there was no reason for Sinclair to disclose anything to anyone. By December, it was clear that Obama was not going to disclose anything to anyone and that Mr Young was merely stringing him along to milk him for information, so Sinclair decided to go public. Hence the Youtube video.

Mr Young turns out to be one Donald Young, an openly gay Chior director at Trinity United Church, and fourth grade math teacher. On December 23, Mr. Young was murdered in his home, and his killer has not been found. Mr. Young was not the only gay black victim of murder in Chicago, There were two other gay men that were murdered within days of each other, Kevin Clewer, and Larry Bland. All three died within a 40 day period.

Now, this is starting to sound really fishy.

Read the whole thing.