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What possible reason could they have for not adopting the law? Yet another reason so called "liberals" are killing our great nation!
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Because of concerns about who might get labeled a sex offender. 25 years hard time is a pretty harsh sentence to receive on a technicality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica..._and_criticism

I have a general issue with mandatory minimum sentencing for exactly such reasons. Every case is different; they shouldn't be treated as cookie cutters.
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Child Molestors should executed.
Not all people labeled sex offenders are child molesters.
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Not every chucklehead feel-good law is actually good.
Agreed, but you don't think Child molesters getting off with only a few months time after raping a small child is OK now do you?
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Not all people labeled sex offenders are child molesters.
Jessica's law does not address "sex offenders" only child molesters and killers!
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Because of concerns about who might get labeled a sex offender. 25 years hard time is a pretty harsh sentence to receive on a technicality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica..._and_criticism

I have a general issue with mandatory minimum sentencing for exactly such reasons. Every case is different; they shouldn't be treated as cookie cutters.
"Among the key provisions of the law are a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison[2] and lifetime electronic monitoring[3] of adults convicted of lewd or lascivious acts against a victim less than 12 years old. In Florida, sexual battery or rape of a child less than twelve years old is a capital felony, punishable only by death or life imprisonment with no chance of parole.[4]"


So this is not well enough defined for you to agree all those who commit a crime that fits should receive at least 25 years?
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Agreed, but you don't think Child molesters getting off with only a few months time after raping a small child is OK now do you?
Nope. But Jessica's law isn't limited to people who rape a small child.
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Jessica's law does not address "sex offenders" only child molesters and killers!
Do you even read your own links?

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Title I - Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act
Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act -
Section 102 -
Declares as the purpose of this Act the establishment of a comprehensive national system for the registration of sex offenders and offenders against children.
Section 103 -
Establishes the Jacob Wetterling, Megan Nicole Kanka, and Pam Lychner Sex Offender Registration and Notification Program.
Subtitle A - Sex Offender Registration and Notification
Section 111 -
Establishes a three-tier classification system for sex offenders based upon specified criteria, including the seriousness of the underlying offense and the age of any child involved.
Defines "sex offense" (to be known as the Amie Zyla Expansion of Sex Offense Definition) to mean: (1) a criminal offense that has an element involving a sexual act or contact or that is a specified offense against a minor; (2) a federal offense involving sex trafficking, sexual abuse, sexual exploitation or abuse of children, or domestic assault; (3) a specified military offense; or (4) an attempt or conspiracy to commit such an offense. Excludes from such definition foreign convictions lacking due process safeguards and certain offenses involving consensual sexual conduct.
Defines "specified offense against a minor" to include offenses involving kidnapping, false imprisonment, sexual solicitation, video voyeurism, and possession, production, or distribution of child pornography.

Pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) broad. Seventeen-year-old plays in the barn with a sixteen-year-old..BAM! Labeled for life.

Why do conservatives and Harley goons claim to back this law, but then trash anyone attempting to author "hate-crime" bills? There's no difference.
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