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You work at McDonald's on purpose?
Macca's was a last resort for me. I never wanted to work there, and couldn't get a job anywhere else because employers want certain qualifications, or a certain grade pass, which I didn't have - and they were never willing to train anyone for the job.
Macca's was my last stop, and I have been there two years now. They trained me fully, so I am not at least somewhat qualified to find another, perhaps better, job.
If I stay there long enough there could be a Management opportunity - most employees who have been there for 5+ years are in positions of management.
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as i said, what does that mean? do you own stock? do you sit and do nothing (like a investor type) what does your job entail?
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I have cleaned thousands of toilets, taken out tons of trash, vacuumed countless carpets, scrubbed (*)(*)(*)(*) in kitchens for hours by hand, and done every nasty cleaning job you can think of. Now I merged my cleaning company with a property services guy and we do the works. I work 16 hours or more every day and I deserve to make more than people who accept minimum wage. I sell anything I can find cheap, and make my own chemicals. I had no previous knowledge of cleaning, or property services, but I made it work. We are adding accounts left and right now that we merged and can man the jobs. I think we will do more than a million this year. I have a GED and paid for my own degree(in English-drama and the novel) while in the Army. This man's point and mine are the same, you are what you have it in you to be.
I don't mean to be rude, but do you have trouble reading? You guys have asked the same question numerous times and I answered it more than once.

edit: I work in the day to find new accounts, and night to manage/clean if necessary.(just to be a little clearer)
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I would rather work in Japan than for minimum wage in America. This is all going along with what I'm saying. You can find work, if, you are willing.
Sometimes, as I have said, you have no choice but to take a low paying job until something better comes along.
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Macca's was a last resort for me. I never wanted to work there, and couldn't get a job anywhere else because employers want certain qualifications, or a certain grade pass, which I didn't have - and they were never willing to train anyone for the job.
Macca's was my last stop, and I have been there two years now. They trained me fully, so I am not at least somewhat qualified to find another, perhaps better, job.
If I stay there long enough there could be a Management opportunity - most employees who have been there for 5+ years are in positions of management.
Weigh the cost/benefit ratio in staying for 3 more years, or moving on to a better/higher paying/more fulfilling job.
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Weigh the cost/benefit ratio in staying for 3 more years, or moving on to a better/higher paying/more fulfilling job.
explain that one, spanky. she is progressing at an established business with management potential available within three years. she likes what she does (at least doesn't seem to "mind" it, if "likes"is too strong) and is acquiring the skills and experience she will need to step into management ranks
on the other hand, she goes into the job hunt elsewhere, only modestly more trained than where she began (only her current employer will recognize the skill set she has attained) and starts all over from the bottom somewhere else
how does such a move advance her career?

now, i am not saying do not keep your eyes open for a better opportunity. but the opportunity she finds will probably be offered by a competitor who recognizes her talent and work ethic at her present job. your recommendation sounded like that practice by many foolish American kids who enter the work force without skills and who jump from job to job for the promise of another quarter an hour increase, without giving themselves an opportunity to establish a skill set that can lead to a career

or allow me to make my point another way. given what i have read from the both of you, the one who should be giving the other advice about the way the world works would be from her to you ... if only you would acquire the wisdom to listen to it
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Weigh the cost/benefit ratio in staying for 3 more years, or moving on to a better/higher paying/more fulfilling job.
A higher paying job would be much better, trouble is, they are hard to find. If I had a car, I'd be able to drive to work, but I can't, so I can only look for something within walking distance.
If I were full time at work, I'd be earning about $520 per week, which would be more than enough to keep me affloat.
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You really have no business making fun of my spelling.

Few companies pay minimum wage, and when they do it's because they can't get away with it. McDonald's would pay more if they didn't have a work force that would accept minimum wage. The company in my article was considering raising prices - not cutting workers.
So your logic is... there shouldnt be a minimum wage, but the workers should demand more money?

Huh?

Also, not everyone is smart or motivated. Many people have disabilities, mental and physical. Why should we increase Bob the Manager's pay by 5% each year and Not increase Suzy the Drive Thru girl's pay a %?

For an example... the company I work for... in the past 2 years the Director has received a 25% raise... the File Clerk has not recieved a raise in 3 years.

Explain how this is logical?
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explain that one, spanky. she is progressing at an established business with management potential available within three years. she likes what she does (at least doesn't seem to "mind" it, if "likes"is too strong) and is acquiring the skills and experience she will need to step into management ranks
on the other hand, she goes into the job hunt elsewhere, only modestly more trained than where she began (only her current employer will recognize the skill set she has attained) and starts all over from the bottom somewhere else
how does such a move advance her career?

now, i am not saying do not keep your eyes open for a better opportunity. but the opportunity she finds will probably be offered by a competitor who recognizes her talent and work ethic at her present job. your recommendation sounded like that practice by many foolish American kids who enter the work force without skills and who jump from job to job for the promise of another quarter an hour increase, without giving themselves an opportunity to establish a skill set that can lead to a career

or allow me to make my point another way. given what i have read from the both of you, the one who should be giving the other advice about the way the world works would be from her to you ... if only you would acquire the wisdom to listen to it
Exactly, you see it just the way I do! Why leave a job when you like it? I have made so many friends the past two years that if I left, I'd probably end up returning - and many people actually do leave but come back because they love the place so much!
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A higher paying job would be much better, trouble is, they are hard to find. If I had a car, I'd be able to drive to work, but I can't, so I can only look for something within walking distance.
If I were full time at work, I'd be earning about $520 per week, which would be more than enough to keep me affloat.
Is there no public transportation?
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Cool pic, uh? What a loser! Standing outside in the freezing cold! Like anyone's ever going to BUY a bloody snowball! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL



Well. Maybe. Perhaps ... someone crazy like me will come by and think this guy is such a fruitcake, what a blast ... and I will actually give him a couple of $$ and yep, purchase a ready made snowball. And, just maybe, a group of Japanese tourists see me do this and they want a photo - photos $2 each. And, others see this going on and wonder whats going down and they crowd around .. and group mentality says 'oh, I'd better get one and a photo' (reasoning: people don't walk into empty restaurants).

And Mr Loser thinks - hell - I should charge a buck a piece and see who can throw the snowball the fartherest down the street.... and, and,

And, now he's so busy collecting the bills that he doesn't have time to make the snowballs AND he needs someone to measure the throwing distance and bring him coffee because he's still freezing ... 2 employees.

It's mindset. Oh, and I think courage. He did look stupidly ridiculous and his mates will have dissed him ... for a little while. Entrepreneurs don't worry about what other people think of them. 14 hours days are a pleasure and although they may have a few sleepness nights worrying about EVERYTHING going down the tubes .... don't ever think they don't have FUN.

The posts I've read in this topic are very clearly divided between those who stay at home by the fire because it's too cold to stand in the street ... and those who will die of frostbite just trying to make something happen.

(Go on, "Yes, but" me .....)
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