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Old 07-17-2008, 01:42 PM
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At this point, I don't think it will hurt Jackson's credibility at all.

He and Sharpton have done so much stupid stuff over the years that it's not even funny to a conservative anymore. One more thing can't really hurt.

He does owe a personal apology to the guy from Seinfeld that he made such a stink over. I'm not saying that the dude from Seinfeld was right but Jackson owes him an apology for his hypocrisy.
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Within the african american community the word does not carry such a slur among themselves. I hear it more often than i would imagine. But if i were to use it. i would be seen as some bigot. I don't understand the reason but thats my experience.
I think it has to do with coopting a hurtful term in order to neuter it.

I see the word "queer" in much the same way. "We're here, we're queer", etc., in that using a term that is derogatory when applied by others becomes something like a badge when self-applied.
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Another word that now is used more and more as a negative is the word GAY. I'm gay it's not easy to hear that. I understand that people saying are not refering specifically to me but to have what you are used in that way stinks.
i.e. I think these shoes are gay. This movie is gay. That shirt looks gay on you. What we did last night was really gay.

What are those statements and references saying? They say to me that if it's gay it's bad. It is the negative. Replace the word gay with dumb. I think these shoes are dumb. Gay is a term for what i am society seems to make it acceptable for others to use that term to make a statement for bad or less then good.
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I think it has to do with coopting a hurtful term in order to neuter it.

I see the word "queer" in much the same way. "We're here, we're queer", etc., in that using a term that is derogatory when applied by others becomes something like a badge when self-applied.

What do you gays, I mean guys, think about freedom of speech?
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calling stuff gay has been around for a very long time.
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a lot of people think they have to be politically correct nowadays regardless of what a person really thinks or feels.........speak your mind and let the chips fall where they may......
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The word "Nіgger" is not that big a deal...the more it is used, the less power it has. By getting all offended by it, black people are giving it power, which is a bad thing.

And however offensive it is, it is certainly less offensive coming from a black man. Black people should co-opt the word the way homos did with "queer".
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What do you gays, I mean guys, think about freedom of speech?
i think it's great. I don't think someone saying that's gay shouldn't be allowed to say it. I was explaining how it feels when people use your thing as a negative. Gosh imagine how that jesue would feel. When you hit your thumb with a hammer you scream Jesus Christ. people are using his name as any old thing.
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i think it's great. I don't think someone saying that's gay shouldn't be allowed to say it. I was explaining how it feels when people use your thing as a negative. Gosh imagine how that jesue would feel. When you hit your thumb with a hammer you scream Jesus Christ. people are using his name as any old thing.
Nah, I know what you mean. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I guess it would be nice if everyone could play nice and speak well of each other but I just don't think that the modern usage of the word 'gay' will change anytime soon. It's very entrenched in our culture and, as Makkede pointed out, is often used to imply something other than homosexual. I understand you don't like the fact that it's used for negative connotations but that's just not going to change.
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