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Old 07-17-2008, 09:51 AM
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Forget for a moment the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq turned out to be 100% false. Forget for a moment the Prime Minister of Iraq and his National Security Advisor have both issued recent statements indicating they want the U.S. occupation to end, and they want a timeline for the withdrawal. Forget for a moment our nation can’t afford the $12 billion a month price tag on this horrific mistake.

There is an even greater reason to end this disaster.

George W. Bush and his policies in Iraq have risen to such a colossal level of incompetence and blunders that there is zero chance for any success in Iraq.

Here’s a link to a website that has amassed released photos taken of U.S. troops and illustrates the treatment of Iraqi detainees. Keep in mind the overwhelming bulk of these detainees were part of round-ups, and have been subsequently released because they had committed no offenses, other than finding themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Before you view these photos, let’s be clear. The troops shown do bear some responsibility for their conduct. It’s miniscule, but they’re not totally innocent. However, the overwhelming responsibility lies in their leadership, right up the chain of command. The conduct, and the acts revealed in these photos, were official policy. Policy starts at the top and filters down. In dealing with this issue, the Bush administration took the cowardly position of making responsibility start at the bottom of the chain of command.

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These are released photos. Don’t think for a second the citizens of Iraq aren’t aware of them. That defies logic. How would you feel about the United States if you were an Iraqi citizen and saw these photos? There’s little doubt other Muslim and Arabic countries have also seen these photos. Do you think these photos foster good will for the United States? Is there even one fool that would claim these photos will help bring “peace and stability” to the region?

The Bush policies have done more harm to America than a generation of presidents that will follow him can repair. Continuing to occupy a nation that we invaded on false claims, then installed official policies depicted in these photos, that wants us to leave, and wants to know when we’ll start leaving, is stupid beyond words. After seeing these photos, do think the average Iraqi citizen will ever respect us?

John McCain does.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:01 AM
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Forget for a moment the fact that the reasons for invading Iraq turned out to be 100% false.
That's as far as I got before I started laughing too hard to continue.
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reasons for invading Iraq turned out to be 100% false....

our nation can’t afford....

George W. Bush and his policies in Iraq have risen to such a colossal level of incompetence and blunders ....

there is zero chance for any success in Iraq....

the overwhelming responsibility lies in their leadership, right up the chain of command....

the Bush administration took the cowardly position of ....

The Bush policies have done more harm to America than .....

Continuing to occupy a nation that we invaded on false claims....


Wow, with all of these terrible things happening in the Bush Administration, I wonder why the new Democrat Congress promised an impeachment but then abruptly abandoned the idea once they took office?

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My reason for voting obama will be the fact that mcain plainly said economy is not his strong point. RIght now the nation needs to focus on domestic issues involving the economic votility that the housing market has created.
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New Zogby 4-Way Presidential Poll
July 17th, 2008

A Zogby/Reuters Poll released July 16 shows these results when voters are presented with a list of 4 presidential candidates: Obama 46%, McCain 36%, Barr 3%, Nader 3%, other or undecided 12%
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My reason for voting obama will be the fact that mcain plainly said economy is not his strong point.
My reason for voting against Obama will be the fact that Obama plainly HAS NO STRONG POINTS.
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the new Democrat Congress promised an impeachment but then abruptly abandoned the idea once they took office?
I don't recall the entire Democratic congress making any such "promises." Got any links/quotes?
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"My reason for voting against Obama will be the fact that Obama plainly HAS NO STRONG POINTS."

1. He's never been in a political corruption scandal. McCain has.
2. He's not a third term for the disasterous Bush polices. McCain is.
3. His wife isn't a drug addict. McCain's wife is.
4. His wife isn't a thief. McCain's wife is.
5. He's never had any "senior moments". McCain does.
6. He doesn't want to keep us in Iraq for 100+ years. McCain does.
7. He doesn't have years of wrong and stupid claims about Iraq. McCain does.
8. He's never been accused of having an irrational hot temper. McCain has.
9. He's never had a terrorist working as a fund raiser. McCain has.
10. He knows the difference between Sunni & Shiites. McCain doesn't.
11. He knows the difference between al-Qaeda and insurgents. McCain doesn't.
12. He isn't boring. McCain is.
13. He doesn't have a bad comb-over. McCain does.
14. He doesn't have lobbyists running his campaign. McCain does.
15. He doesn't have this guy working in his campaign. McCain does.
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My reason for voting obama will be the fact that mcain plainly said economy is not his strong point. RIght now the nation needs to focus on domestic issues involving the economic votility that the housing market has created.
This is just one of my concerns. We do need a president now that has an economic clue. I don't think McCains, Phil Gramm is an answer to our econmic woes.
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i dont think mccain has a comb over.

i demand proof.
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