As a white guy on the forum,,,

[Ziggae_6]

Originally Posted by rsay32

There is still racism. But now it comes from the black community as well the white community. Blacks are angry because apologists tell them they should be. Apologists tell them that their every setback is a result of racism and a system thats out to get them. And human nature being what it is its much easier to spout racism as an excuse than it is to take personal responsibility.

To answer the original question of this thread: Black people do not go after the blameless descendants of the africans who sold their ancestors into slavery because their is no advantage in it for them. Its much easier to keep it local and blame whitey because we have plenty of misguided people who will give them break after break out of a misguided sense of guilt.

Well, if you trace back page after page, you have "white man" claiming he shouldn't feel guilty about slavery any more. The problem is they should take the time to know something about African and slavery history as well as black US history so their emotion should be empathy instead of guilt. Big difference, me thinks. You should know more than "there was slavery in this country".

[rsay32]

Originally Posted by Taomon

Oh I see, so apologists are fueling bigotry now, not anything that the bigoted upper class whites have done has caused any disharmony at all. And according to your posts, blacks are conniving so they only feel hatred towards the people they can victimize (never mind the generations of brutality, bigotry and inequality at the hands of those innocent upper class whites).

One question, can I have a hit of what you are taking?

You sure can. Its called reality. I never absolved the white community(any part of it) from balme. I simply stated that its human nature for people to use any excuse to avoid personal responsibility. You are the one attributing a conniving rage to the black community. I am simply stating that continuously rehashing slavery and seeking to lay blame at the foot of todays white community does not benefit this country or its fight against racism. As far as racist behaviour today goes, yes, it still exists and it is practiced by all races.


If you really want a solution to racism then chew on this for a moment. Rather than the current system of deciding seats in congress why not award seats based on racial percentages. I don't know what the current percentages are so bear with me. If the country has 30% black, 10 % asian, 15 % hispanic and 45% white then why not divide the seats up that way. There will always be issues that will bear favorably toward the majority but not so for the minorities. Well with this system they could better work together against the majority and therefore better safegaurd their interests and communities.

[rsay32]

Originally Posted by Ziggae_6

Well, if you trace back page after page, you have "white man" claiming he shouldn't feel guilty about slavery any more. The problem is they should take the time to know something about African and slavery history as well as black US history so their emotion should be empathy instead of guilt. Big difference, me thinks. You should know more than "there was slavery in this country".

I do. But empathy can be carried to far and easily taken advantage of. What we need to question is what constitutes fair and equal treatment. For example: An employer should want the best qualified applicant he can find. In the event of two equally qualified applicants of differing race by what criteria can he make his decision? Upon what basis can he choose and not be open to a charge of racism?

I think the first step to eradication of racism is to revamp our educational system. First we need to equally fund each and every school regardless of district. Second we need to fund college the same way. Therby making grades the determing factor for admissions and not ability to pay. Once everyone can take advantage of the same educational opportunities the rest will follow.Because in business today performance is what counts not skin color.

[Taomon]

Originally Posted by C-D-P

Thank you. But that does not answer why there is no mistrust towards those with ancestors that sold their ancestors.

I understand why there is mistrust and animosity towards some whites. You do not need to explain that.

Are you saying that I am a bigot?

It does answer it, you just don't like the answer.

[C-D-P]

Originally Posted by Taomon

It does answer it, you just don't like the answer.

No it does not answer it to a reasonable degree. It does not even begin to answer it, and I do not understand why one of our black members does not attempt to answer it.

[giminy123]

Originally Posted by C-D-P

No it does not answer it to a reasonable degree. It does not even begin to answer it, and I do not understand why one of our black members does not attempt to answer it.

Because your premise is off in the first place. You are assuming that all and / or most blacks are angry at whites because of slavery. That is not true. Unless you can find a black member of these forums who is angry at all whites because of slavery your question simply cannot be answered in the way you wish it to be answered.

[MasTequila]

Originally Posted by giminy123

Because your premise is off in the first place. You are assuming that all and / or most blacks are angry at whites because of slavery. That is not true. Unless you can find a black member of these forums who is angry at all whites because of slavery your question simply cannot be answered in the way you wish it to be answered.

SuperBad, where are you?

[C-D-P]

Originally Posted by giminy123

Because your premise is off in the first place. You are assuming that all and / or most blacks are angry at whites because of slavery. That is not true. Unless you can find a black member of these forums who is angry at all whites because of slavery your question simply cannot be answered in the way you wish it to be answered.

Did I ever say all whites? Please read the OP again.

[rsay32]

Don't stop now. We were finally getting into potential solutions rather than just mud slinging.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by giminy123

Because your premise is off in the first place. You are assuming that all and / or most blacks are angry at whites because of slavery. That is not true. Unless you can find a black member of these forums who is angry at all whites because of slavery your question simply cannot be answered in the way you wish it to be answered.

There are blacks on this forum who think all whites in America should have to pay reparations to blacks, even if those whites are first generation Americans.

Their reasoning? "You should have known that you would inherit the white country's debt."

That's the type of attitude on both sides which is just stupid and drags the nation back.

We as a country need to move past the KKK and Jesse Jackson. Whites need to realize that whites were wrong and blacks need to realize that only they determine their future.

Don't have great conditions at school, Kenny? Sorry about that. Still, the only person who controls your future is you, not the rich white kid from the suburb 10 miles away. You study, you work hard, and you get good grades. Go to college, work hard still, and get a good job. Most businesses these days are color blind. You can do great. The only thing standing in the way is you.

Is that fair? Not really. It is life though.

You never answered my percentage questions by the way.