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General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes

WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account.

The remarks by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who's now retired, came in a new report that found that U.S. personnel tortured and abused detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, using beatings, electrical shocks, sexual humiliation and other cruel practices.

"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," Taguba wrote. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

Taguba, whose 2004 investigation documented chilling abuses at Abu Ghraib, is thought to be the most senior official to have accused the administration of war crimes. "The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," he wrote.

A White House spokeswoman, Kate Starr, had no comment.


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I thought Bush had protected himself against such charges? Maybe this protection can be overturned and he can be charged. I'd certainly like to see it.
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"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes,"

"The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

"The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," he wrote."

--Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, USArmy retired

ohmy. tsk tsk tsk, junior has been a naughty boy.
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I thought Bush had protected himself against such charges? Maybe this protection can be overturned and he can be charged. I'd certainly like to see it.
He'll never be charged. It's in God hands now... and Jesus is not a big fan of torture.
The USA on the otherhand, has already been judged.. and America lost the moral highground.

Now it's up to the next administration to reclaim that lost ground.
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General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes

WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account.

The remarks by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who's now retired, came in a new report that found that U.S. personnel tortured and abused detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, using beatings, electrical shocks, sexual humiliation and other cruel practices.

"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," Taguba wrote. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

Taguba, whose 2004 investigation documented chilling abuses at Abu Ghraib, is thought to be the most senior official to have accused the administration of war crimes. "The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," he wrote.

A White House spokeswoman, Kate Starr, had no comment.


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If it is a true report he should be charged. Would he be person enough to defend the charges and do the time if he were guilty. hmmmmm
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He'd be on his knees to his daddy that he dispises to "do something! PLEASE! I'll be good!".

BTW, KG0, while the new one is good, that other avatar was da kine!

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He'd be on his knees to his daddy that he dispises to "do something! PLEASE! I'll be good!".

BTW, KG0, while the new one is good, that other avatar was da kine!
I will go back to the other one in a few days. i should make this a guessing game and see if anyone can guess which is me.
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I thought Bush had protected himself against such charges? Maybe this protection can be overturned and he can be charged. I'd certainly like to see it.
Augusto Pinochet also tried to legislate himself into legality a few years ago in Chile, but the world, including the US, didn't buy that farce. A Spanish judge ordered his detention while he was on foreign soil (the UK to be exact).

However, as we know, a clear concept of double standards has been been accepted over the years via political osmosis. This rule is : One set of laws for the whole planet, with the exception that there is another set for the US if someone says that the illegality was perpetrated in Uncle Sam's best interests.

Who is "someone"? What conditions apply for the hypocracy to become acceptable, at least in the red states, and what determines what "best interests" are?

Who knows? And I don't care because it is just SUCH a nauseating concept. You gotta write an update to your book "Failed States", Chomsky.
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General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes

WASHINGTON — The Army general who led the investigation into prisoner abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison accused the Bush administration Wednesday of committing "war crimes" and called for those responsible to be held to account.

The remarks by Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba, who's now retired, came in a new report that found that U.S. personnel tortured and abused detainees in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, using beatings, electrical shocks, sexual humiliation and other cruel practices.

"After years of disclosures by government investigations, media accounts and reports from human rights organizations, there is no longer any doubt as to whether the current administration has committed war crimes," Taguba wrote. "The only question that remains to be answered is whether those who ordered the use of torture will be held to account."

Taguba, whose 2004 investigation documented chilling abuses at Abu Ghraib, is thought to be the most senior official to have accused the administration of war crimes. "The commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture," he wrote.

A White House spokeswoman, Kate Starr, had no comment.


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Your header says "charges" and your post says "accused" , Which is it ? Then I didn't realize a he was in a position to bring "charges" against the POTUS.

This is what I love about the non-solutionists, you go on about how it's all the other sides fault when in fact it's the fault of both sides and those that vote for them.

http://images.radcity.net/5151/2475940.mp3

Then I suggest you look at the War Powers Resolution on wikipedia.
You do remember Clinton dropped bombs on these people too? Then he says his piece in the audio link I posted.

I forgot to ask, Are you angry that our enemies were treated a little rough is that why you posted this thread or is it that you just hate Bush and were looking for like minded friends? One thing about haters they always have friends. I'm looking for some problem solver forward looking types with no political bias. Well just don't vote for any of these lying idiots.

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I forgot to ask, Are you angry that our enemies were treated a little rough is that why you posted this thread or is it that you just hate Bush and were looking for like minded friends?
A little rough? Is that how you describe murder, rape and torture? I know that's what Bush and Cheney think but I imagined that ordinary Americans would disagree.

No. When our government does something like this, with our tax money, and we don't try to stop it, then we're guilty too.



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