There is greed, poor management and corruption in government. That's why we have the healthcare system that we have today. Lobbyists for drug companies and insurance companies are fighting tooth and nail to keep the system we have now.

How would it be different if our system changed. Well, specifically on the mental health side it would change alot. If you remember the Reagan years, Reagan changed health policy dramatically. If a patient was stable when they're on their meds, they were ordered to be released. Doctors knew that a great many of these patients were not capable of staying on those meds without help. What you got were a flood of mentally ill homeless people on the streets, causing problems and many being put into prison - which is far worse for the individual and far more expensive for society.

With hope and work, that will change with our new system.

I agree completely. Why was there only a security guard there? Why was he so obviously untrained and uncaring? Healthcare is a basic human right not a commodity to be bought and sold by those who can afford it.

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"The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." ---Albert Einstien

And what right does a person have to steal from me in order to pay for their "right" to healthcare?

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--Murray Rothbard

The driving factor behind poor care is the insurance industry that looks for every possible loophole to save a dime and even feels it has the right to determine what is or is not neccessary care. And don't forget, if you get too expensive for them they will just terminate your coverage all together. Universal healthcare would eliminate the insurance companies influence resulting in a system where patients' medical needs are the driving factor rather than their ability to pay.

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"One thing we have been taught too often is that health care is a right," he said. "But health care isn't a right. Having a house isn't a right. Having a job isn't a right. Not in a free country. In a free country, you have a right to your life and you have a right to your liberty."
-Ron Paul

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Had this been a socialized system the hospital administrator would not have been skimping on staff and this woman would have recieved the care she required.

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You cant create new laws simply because the old ones werent being obeyed. Enforce the old ones as they were intended.

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A nurse walked over and lightly kicked her. Where do they teach this as method of medical care? So much for the theory that care givers in the privatized system are more motivated to provide better care.

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Had it been a socialized system she and thousands of others would still be collapsing in the line for healthcare.. We have public healthcare and incidents like this are not uncommon in any system. There isolated and a human error. You can't judge any healthcare system on the microscopic level especially when your cherry picking incidents. Look at the quality of hospitals, look at the waiting periods, look at the equipment and amount of healthcare workers and how many people are using the system. Then compare it with other nations and there is no problem.

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In a socialized system, the amount of money paid to doctors goes down because of the requirement for all methods of healthcare to be available to everyone and because the amount of money necessary to pay for all of that care is beyond the amount that the government can reasonably take in taxes. Because the amount that the doctors are paid goes down, the total number of doctors goes down (unless the government would force those people to work at gunpoint). The supply of doctors goes below the demand for healthcare, because of the price has been forced below the market price, and there is a shortage of healthcare. The socialized system responds by putting healthcare on a first-come, first-serve basis, which in turn, results in waiting lists for care. People with urgent medical needs are often put on the lists for months, and many die while waiting, many from treatable causes who would not have died if they had seen a doctor on time.

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