Originally Posted by JavaBlack

I'm not too fond of any idea of state-sanctioned neuterings unless it's something more akin to sexual assault or rape.
I figure it would be okay for a woman having more than some given number of abortions... and then the rule should also apply to men with more than that same number of child support cases (these guys are especially problematic- after a certain number of cases, no more can be taken from your check!).

Originally Posted by TheHat

Here, have a fish:

Originally Posted by static_engineer

Can we throw dead beat mothers in there as well!

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

Sterilization isn't for deadbeats.

Originally Posted by heikstheo

Why shouldn't it be?

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

The crime in that case is not paying. Sterilization is a bit permanent for something that can be corrected by the guy paying his arrearages.

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

But it's kind of hard to find women that have MULTIPLE children with DIFFERENT fathers and then do not raise them and avoid child support.

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

In fact I'm willing to bet that multiple child deadbeat fathers outnumber multiple abortion women by a huge margin...

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

Sure.
But it's kind of hard to find women that have MULTIPLE children with DIFFERENT fathers and then do not raise them and avoid child support.
For those that do meet that requirement sure.

Sterilization isn't for deadbeats. It's for people with multiple children that they want nothing to do with. Technically the people I mention do not have to be deadbeats at all. They can simply have so many out-of-wedlock kids that their child support increase is tiny or nonexistent (thus no further deterrent [as if the deterrent worked in the first place]).

Originally Posted by TheHat

Here, have a fish:

Originally Posted by JavaBlack

It's a bit less than 50% in the US, more like a third in Canada... Something like a third in England I think, but it's hard to tell as I got that from a news article for one year rather than a scholarly one.
Repeat abortions seem to be correlated heavily with a history of sexual abuse.

It's higher than expected, but still a minority... and it certainly points toward strange and terrible circumstances having a lot to do with repeat abortions.

considering that women who get abortions are already the minority, half of that is a small number.
And of course this is not to say that half of women getting abortions repeat, just that half of abortions done are repeat... because no distinction is made between second and fifth, the number of women getting abortions is under 50% as long as there are some getting more than two.