fully agreed.

this is true too. people should provide some degree of evidence before arbitrarily accusing others.

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Nowhere have I claimed that non-supporters of illegal immigration are racist. However, WHAT I DID ASSERT is that it is racist to make the false claim that illegal immigration is responsible for the undercutting of US salaries.

Racism isn't illegal in the U.S!

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How is that racist? Explain how it fits the definition!

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The point is that many left wingers throw out the racist card at the first sign that someone is against illegal immigration. Many people call Ron Paul racist because of his conservative immigration views, but he is far from racist.

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"Thomas Jefferson spoke of binding our rulers down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution, and we are proud to follow in his distinguished lineage."
-Ron Paul, about his freedom campaign.

http://www.politicalforum.com/humor-...johns-ftw.html

is there a difference?
good question.

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Don't confuse me with the facts.

Is there a difference??? In the words of John McEnroe, "You cannot be serious". Make yourself a nice cup of coffee, sit down and think about it.

It doesn't lower the wage for other jobs, but it keeps the wages low in job markets that are heavily saturated with illegal workers, thus lowering the number of decently waged jobs. Employers won't hire people from the US if they know they can hold out for a better deal.

Actually Ron Paul wasnt called racist because of his immigration issues. He was called racist because he used to put out a publication and it was indeed racist.

Here is a copy of one of his Ron Paul Report pieces and its racist and it never discusses immigration at all.

He acknowledge this was indeed in his Ron Paul Political Report publication but claims he didnt write it...as if that changes anything at all. He wont say who DID either.

The fact is, HE ENDORSED it and PUBLISHED under HIS OWN NAME and charged people for this publication.

This is what I see happen a lot. People are JUSTIFIABLY called racist and they claim they were called this because they are tough on immigration when the truth is its NOT OVER THAT AT ALL.

He calls black people terrorists, says you can identify a terrorist by the color of his skin etc. That is clearly racist rhetoric he put his name on and published...

Here is a CNN story that talks to Ron Paul about this.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS...ers/index.html

Now, I agree that he should be able to run for president and he is right that the corporate owned parties will do what they can to shut him and anyone else who isnt really part of that system down and I even have agreements with him on some other issues BUT he published a racist publication under his own name with pieces that were clearly quite racist, again under his own name and his excuses dont hold even one drop of water.

SO I am one of the people that would identify him as racist and it has NOTHING to do with his immigration stance BUT people would accuse me of labeling him unfairly because of his stance on immigration. Thats JUST AS WRONG as labeling someone a racist solely because they are against immigration, legal or illegal.

Look for the REAL cause of someones opinion, thats what we should all be doing.

I should also post this because this is the group that archives and tracks hate speech on the internet.


http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people...92/gannon.0793

It publishes the entire article from the Ron Paul Political Report. They found it because some white racist group at the time published it on the net and this group archived it as part of their project.

Its hard to track down much of his stuff from that Poltical Report he used to publish because he has also refused to make copies of it available. It was a report people paid a fee to recieve and he no longer publishes.