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Old 07-26-2008, 02:59 AM
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a little off topic, sexist and kinda mean but after living in europe for a few years I have to say its much more accurate than not. Fast food will be the death of us all. muuwaahaahaa

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That is disgusting. Fat people should be banned from wearing G strings.
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That is disgusting. Fat people should be banned from wearing G strings.
amen.....oh and spandex
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These two morbidly obese people came into Macca's today...the woman needed a cane to walk and her tits were down to her ankles - no kidding. The guy was wearing a blue shirt that was a good three sizes too small, his guts hung over it, and the customers just stared at them with disgust and it was embarrasing because I had to serve them...muffins and hash browns and breakfast rolls and lattes...they ate enough to feed the whole of Africa.
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Do you think that junk food advertising should be banned during childrens shows?
I can see the point in that, but what about during TV programs not suitable for children? Seems the parents want to ban this, too!
Sure do. But then I basically want to do away with almost all advertsing, so the childrens thing is pretty basic to me.

Oh and actually I saw recently where someone was calling for the union movement to be "grown-up", "reasonable" and to be the "circuit breaker" in stopping high inflation. How? By denying their members increased wages to meet rising cost of living. Sure this problem is caused by those that own things deciding that they are now worth more money, and that the workers are in the least comfortable position to handle this but eh, there you go.

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Old 07-26-2008, 03:26 AM
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We have allowed our own food supply to be destroyed.

Flavor enhancers and chemicals added to the food increase appetite and I bet they are addictive as well. Fake sugars are horrible, high fructose corn syrup is like sugar on crack and much of the food people eat on a regular basis are FULL of this stuff.

I am vegetarian but I wouldnt eat the processed vegetarian food, its just as bad as the rest of the processed foods out there. People seem to think vegetarian equals "healthy" and it doesnt....there is plenty of junk food out there that doesnt contain meat. Its only healthy if you actually EAT vegetables and fruits. I do know fat vegetarians who have a very unhealthy diet.

Most of my friends swear they cannot eat as I do...but I honestly believe this is because they eat processed food crap and its either addictive or it must destroy their taste buds because REAL FOOD TASTES GOOD! If I have a craving for something sweet I can eat and apple or some strawberries. I love strawberries but they are expensive but I consider them my "steak".

LOL everyone felt sorry for my son when he was little cause I never allowed soda, fruit juices or kool-aid. He drank water and some fresh squeezed juice at times. It did become difficult because in school because these kids would bring "lunchables" to school for their lunch and my kid brought stuff mom made (bulgar salad, chicken breast, spinach salad, fruits, whole grain bread etc). The food my son brought for lunch was considered "gross" by the other kids...he told me NO ONE would ever trade with him for lunch!

But its rather interesting how most people thought it was negative that I fed my son as healthy as I have...what does that tell you about our food culture? It seems to me we encourage a way of eating and then hate people who engage in it and end up with the consequences. I know his father and even some of my own friends snuck him junk food and they honestly didnt think it was "bad" for them to do this.....they saw it as saving my son from his overly strict mother.

Its much easier now that he is 17 since he is more aware of his health (and now that he cares about how he looks and how atheletic he is), but it was much more of struggle til about age 13 or 14. Now he eats better than me because I can be picky...he likes nori (seaweed) and salmon...I dont like that stuff even though its great for you.
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Of course, it doesn't make sense at all ... raising the minimum wage raises the wage floor. Subsequently the cost of food goes up because of the increase in labor costs.

By the way, your premise is false. Unquestionably, poor people eat more starches ... but, like all the other Americans, if they would get off their ass, they wouldn't have weight problems.
There is also the fact that poor people cant go to the doctor and fix medical problems that affect weight gain..
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Apparently people in the US are fat because they are poor, and poor people eat alot of cheap food, which is loaded with fat, and so they end up as big as houses.

The solution could be to raise the minimum wage, then people will be able to afford healthy food, and they won't get fat, and America will not be the worlds fattest nation anymore.

Even by as little as $10 a week could make all the difference and it wouldn't be that hard...

Makes sense to me, ya'll.
If you raise minimum wage it will harm a lot of small businesses, whih would make the big businesses happy but put a lot of people out of work.

We subsidize some foods, like sugar and grains. We subsidize the wrong food. We should subsidize fruits, vegetables, local farms, fishing industries and so on. We should raise the taxes on junk food.

Make the good food cheap and the bad food expensive (basically reverse the current trend).
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Sounds good, except that if the average wages go up, then the cost of living goes up as well. That's the nature of a free market economy. I think regulation to make the price of goods lower makes more sense. Let the people afford better things by making them more affordable. Less corporate overhead costs sounds like a good start. Lay off the middle management leeches that don't contribute to the production of goods and make them work for a living. That would also serve to increase the supply of products and as a result lower the costs.
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We have allowed our own food supply to be destroyed.

Flavor enhancers and chemicals added to the food increase appetite and I bet they are addictive as well. Fake sugars are horrible, high fructose corn syrup is like sugar on crack and much of the food people eat on a regular basis are FULL of this stuff.

I am vegetarian but I wouldnt eat the processed vegetarian food, its just as bad as the rest of the processed foods out there. People seem to think vegetarian equals "healthy" and it doesnt....there is plenty of junk food out there that doesnt contain meat. Its only healthy if you actually EAT vegetables and fruits. I do know fat vegetarians who have a very unhealthy diet.

Most of my friends swear they cannot eat as I do...but I honestly believe this is because they eat processed food crap and its either addictive or it must destroy their taste buds because REAL FOOD TASTES GOOD! If I have a craving for something sweet I can eat and apple or some strawberries. I love strawberries but they are expensive but I consider them my "steak".

LOL everyone felt sorry for my son when he was little cause I never allowed soda, fruit juices or kool-aid. He drank water and some fresh squeezed juice at times. It did become difficult because in school because these kids would bring "lunchables" to school for their lunch and my kid brought stuff mom made (bulgar salad, chicken breast, spinach salad, fruits, whole grain bread etc). The food my son brought for lunch was considered "gross" by the other kids...he told me NO ONE would ever trade with him for lunch!

But its rather interesting how most people thought it was negative that I fed my son as healthy as I have...what does that tell you about our food culture? It seems to me we encourage a way of eating and then hate people who engage in it and end up with the consequences. I know his father and even some of my own friends snuck him junk food and they honestly didnt think it was "bad" for them to do this.....they saw it as saving my son from his overly strict mother.

Its much easier now that he is 17 since he is more aware of his health (and now that he cares about how he looks and how atheletic he is), but it was much more of struggle til about age 13 or 14. Now he eats better than me because I can be picky...he likes nori (seaweed) and salmon...I dont like that stuff even though its great for you.
I kinda agree with you , I am trying something new here , I am buying all I can of locally grown and made foods , already I can say the fresh meat is excellant and the butter!!!!
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Okay, so if it was such a huge problem, why doesn't anyone over here seem bothered by it? I mean, we don't complain about raising wages because the cost of living goes up, it doesn't seem an important issue from where I am - why is it such an important issue for the US?
Honestly? Because Australians are less aware of the intricacies than Americans.

Your own statement shows it ... "we don't complain about raising wages because the cost of living goes up.." That shows a naivete and a basic trust in the government to manage it.

Americans recognize that your statement is backwards ... ONE of the reasons the cost of living goes up IS the rise in wages. So, raising wages to adjust for the cost of living causes the cost of living to rise, thus getting out of reach, which causes the need for raising wages again, which drives the cost of ..... well, you get the point.
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