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Old 08-02-2008, 05:52 AM
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So when a socialist country taxes at 62% of what you earn, it is somehow better?
Why doesnt it surprise anyone in here that the FAMOUS PEABODY springs to the immoral defense of capitalism?

Yes ladies and gentlemen, Prof. Peabody the Denier of Human links to Global warming.

Prof PEABODY, the person who prefers that ALL welfare programs are focused to the entities and people who need them most - THE PRIVATE CORPORATIONS AND THEIR FAT BLOATED CEO's.

Adn what does Prof PEABODY have to say about the continual CORPORATE WELFARE handouts by the US Government on behalf of the tax payer given to inefficient corrupt and failing US corporations??

Where are your capitalist FREE-MARKET ideologies now?

But we all know that the USA is NOT a FREE-MARKET and the USA is certainly not a democracy. Its an Oligarchical Plutocracy that has a puppet government system that propps up private unaccountable tyranical corporations.

This is the PEABODY capitalist dream - A NIGHTMARE IN REALITY

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Adn what does Prof PEABODY have to say about the continual CORPORATE WELFARE handouts by the US Government on behalf of the tax payer given to inefficient corrupt and failing US corporations??

Where are your capitalist FREE-MARKET ideologies now?

But we all know that the USA is NOT a FREE-MARKET and the USA is certainly not a democracy. Its an Oligarchical Plutocracy that has a puppet government system that propps up private unaccountable tyranical corporations.
Yeah, but our country is the same.
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Oh (*)(*)(*)(*) guys, you relegated my description of socialism to the last page, that was really good I thought.

(anyone who is interested go back to last page to read my explanation of socialism)
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I think the threshold is pretty simple, a country cannot be socialist if it still has a circulating currency. Socialist society cannot economically work it is distorted by a medium of circulation, as opposed to a measure of value.

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Would Jesus approve of the political and social structures that are dominant in the US society.?

Isnt the USA a Christian nation?

Was Jesus a Capitalist?

Was Jesus a Socialist?

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Would Jesus approve of the political and social structures that are dominant in the US society.?

Isnt the USA a Christian nation?

Was Jesus a Capitalist?

Was Jesus a Socialist?

US right wing hypoctrits!
Dude, your being a demagogue, I am trying to explain socialism in a way that even opponents of it can understand, please don't spoil.

I think alot of the angst directed at socialist is the result of lots of misunderstanding, cultural or otherwise.
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you should run for president quaile, this thread is enlighning. im no good at articulation, so i root for anarchism, i just want to be my own entitie, have a small farm, mabye trade a few things, dont need the government to keep me from killing or being killed, dont need the government to school me , or take my earnings...

i guess it comes down to respecting all life (well stick with human for now, then move on to other animals) if workers were respected and given a decent wage,yea.
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Yeah, but our country is the same.
Of course it is, But we still havent TOTALLY stripped all the social safety nets from underneath the people who may need them the most - ie the poor and middle classes.

We have though sold the bulk of our state owned assets - namely power grids, water, transport etc.

Until of course something happens - THEN THE PRIVATE CORPORATION want hand outs and legislation assistance in order to continue.

Look in the USA a the the moment - the amount of money being funneled from the tax payer to the failing financial sector and inefficient Private tyranical corporate structure is astonishing.

What sort of capitalism is this?

One that privatises profit and power and socialises the risk and losses.

Thats a selective form of centralised unaccountable corporate socialism
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Capitalism is capitalism Foolosophy, it's still the same economic basis for society. It's just that in history Europe (and America etc) industrialized before Africa or the 'third world', so the 'first world' has a comparative advantage and can afford (because of their head start) to pay their workers more, give them more social services and welfare etc.

Just because workers have it better here in America, it just means the suffering is worse in the third world, given that capitalism is a global system and global market.
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Dude, your being a demagogue, I am trying to explain socialism in a way that even opponents of it can understand, please don't spoil.

I think alot of the angst directed at socialist is the result of lots of misunderstanding, cultural or otherwise.
The US system socialises corporate risk and losses so as to maximise the profits and power of private corporate structures.

The Big Corporations dont want market desciplines and capitalist ideals applied to them - they want protectionism and a sort of agreed cartel structure .

The USA is certianly NOT an example of a capitalist system

THE USA is also NOT an example of a democratic nation.

There is a interconnected linkage between these two facts

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