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Old 08-02-2008, 09:56 PM
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I personally believe that in prison, instead of just having the inmates lay around watching cable TV and eating bad food, a serious attempt should be made to reform each and every one of the inmates. If one truly shows that they have reformed, they should be released back into society. I don't believe that people regardless of what they've done should just be locked up and forgotten. Everyone deserves a chance to make things right, and I personally believe that the average person is prejudiced against people who've committed crimes. The crimes may be wrong, and it isn't prejudiced just to think that they are, but people start to look upon the criminals as though what they've done makes them subhuman and that they don't deserve the same rights as other people do. Everyone is a person regardless of what they've done and everyone can reform if they truly want to.
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I agree that every attempt should be made to help inmates reform. We shouldn't throw them in prison and assume they will not reform as it is possible they can - if they are willing.
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Seen Sicko? The prison system in Denmark(?) seemed like quite an eye-opener, and its what I was thinking about whenI responded to your other thread.

Edit: though I wonder if reformis always possible tbh- that proviso 'if they are willing' well that might just be where reform falters.

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I personally believe that in prison, instead of just having the inmates lay around watching cable TV and eating bad food, a serious attempt should be made to reform each and every one of the inmates. If one truly shows that they have reformed, they should be released back into society. I don't believe that people regardless of what they've done should just be locked up and forgotten. Everyone deserves a chance to make things right, and I personally believe that the average person is prejudiced against people who've committed crimes. The crimes may be wrong, and it isn't prejudiced just to think that they are, but people start to look upon the criminals as though what they've done makes them subhuman and that they don't deserve the same rights as other people do. Everyone is a person regardless of what they've done and everyone can reform if they truly want to.
Okay, boy genius, exactly how do you propose to reform these people? Just for the record, I do not believe that reformatories reform people nor do penitentiaries make people penitent.
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If one truly shows that they have reformed, they should be released back into society.
Haven't you heard? Awhile back, a bunch of mushy-headed liberals already forced this concept on us. It's called parole.
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Okay, boy genius, exactly how do you propose to reform these people? Just for the record, I do not believe that reformatories reform people nor do penitentiaries make people penitent.
It's really up to the person to reform, but they could still do more for them than just tossing them in a cell then forgetting about them. They could give them counseling and therapy and have special classes on how to reform. It would mean more taxpayer dollars at work, but it would be worth it.
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Haven't you heard? Awhile back, a bunch of mushy-headed liberals already forced this concept on us. It's called parole.
Huh you know the history? I asummed there must have been a nod somehwere in there allowing rich people to get out of jail. Intriguing.
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It's really up to the person to reform, but they could still do more for them than just tossing them in a cell then forgetting about them. They could give them counseling and therapy and have special classes on how to reform. It would mean more taxpayer dollars at work, but it would be worth it.
You would have to define, in some measurable way, what exactly is meant by being reformed. Then, once you have defined what it means to be reformed, you would have to create opportunities for such reformation.
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Huh you know the history? I asummed there must have been a nod somehwere in there allowing rich people to get out of jail. Intriguing.
Exactly where in my post did I say anything about letting rich people out of jail?
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I don't think that prisons do well in reforming anyone. In many ways i think they do more harm. I think the prison system is in need of repair.
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