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Old 08-06-2008, 02:55 PM
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I'm not sure if I am the only person who thinks that the INCOME TAX is the most unfair tax ever created, but does anyone see my point? First of all all the drug dealers, prostitutes, thieves, pimps, hustlers and con (people) not to mention all those illegal aliens and anyone else not paying in to the INCOME TAX are being supported by you the hard working taxpayer. Why has the U.S. Government not enacted a federal sales tax. A sales tax of as little as 6% would be possible to eliminate the entire INCOME TAX. I am not an economist but I can speculate. If all the money spent in the United States paid 6% federal sales tax, can you imagine the windfall the government would receive. We are a nation of consumers, we all want a piece of the pie. Instead only the poor schmucks who work for structured companies willing to withold taxes for the government have to pay into this system. Don't get me wrong when the country needed an emergency tax to get us past the great depression it may have been a fair tax. Back then a lot more U.S. citizens actually worked for a living. I'm not sure, but I believe I pay somewhere around 30% in INCOME TAX. I welcome any economist, tax expert , or government official to repudiate these numbers based on the amount of state sales tax collected in the last physcal year. I honestly believe 3 or 4 % would be enough, but I know how big government is, it takes a lot to run all the social programs for the aforementioned prositutes, drug dealers, thieves, pimps, illegal aliens, and the rest of those not paying in to the antiquated INCOME TAX system. I also believe if we got to choose where our tax dollars go I would not vote for a war in the middle east, but for medical research to improve the length and quality of life. That's all I've got to say about that.
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I'm not sure if I am the only person who thinks that the INCOME TAX is the most unfair tax ever created, but does anyone see my point? First of all all the drug dealers, prostitutes, thieves, pimps, hustlers and con (people) not to mention all those illegal aliens and anyone else not paying in to the INCOME TAX are being supported by you the hard working taxpayer. Why has the U.S. Government not enacted a federal sales tax. A sales tax of as little as 6% would be possible to eliminate the entire INCOME TAX. I am not an economist but I can speculate. If all the money spent in the United States paid 6% federal sales tax, can you imagine the windfall the government would receive. We are a nation of consumers, we all want a piece of the pie. Instead only the poor schmucks who work for structured companies willing to withold taxes for the government have to pay into this system. Don't get me wrong when the country needed an emergency tax to get us past the great depression it may have been a fair tax. Back then a lot more U.S. citizens actually worked for a living. I'm not sure, but I believe I pay somewhere around 30% in INCOME TAX. I welcome any economist, tax expert , or government official to repudiate these numbers based on the amount of state sales tax collected in the last physcal year. I honestly believe 3 or 4 % would be enough, but I know how big government is, it takes a lot to run all the social programs for the aforementioned prositutes, drug dealers, thieves, pimps, illegal aliens, and the rest of those not paying in to the antiquated INCOME TAX system. I also believe if we got to choose where our tax dollars go I would not vote for a war in the middle east, but for medical research to improve the length and quality of life. That's all I've got to say about that.
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I'm not sure if I am the only person who thinks that the INCOME TAX is the most unfair tax ever created, but does anyone see my point?
Absolutely. It's totally unfair. Two questions:

#1 - Who in their right mind that was free from an income tax ever think - "Hey, I want to give up my right to keep all that I earn and let the ignorant majority and politicians decide just how much of my income I get to keep?" Only an idiot would think that's a good deal.

#2 - If you vote against every politician that favors an income tax - aren't you being taxed without representation? How are you represented if no one that you ever vote for actually wins and takes power?
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Let's not forget about the $482 billion projected government deficit. Someone has to pay that off. And that's going to be us? We're responsible for the government's fiscal negligence? Seems backwards to me.
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Let's not forget about the $482 billion projected government deficit. Someone has to pay that off. And that's going to be us? We're responsible for the government's fiscal negligence? Seems backwards to me.
Good point. Since I've never voted for anyone who won, how exactly am I responsible for all the spending these idiots have done? Again, those of us who vote for third party candidates have no representation in Washington.
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Absolutely. It's totally unfair. Two questions:

#1 - Who in their right mind that was free from an income tax ever think - "Hey, I want to give up my right to keep all that I earn and let the ignorant majority and politicians decide just how much of my income I get to keep?" Only an idiot would think that's a good deal.
I think that this is one of the only issues (other than gun control) that I have ever agreed with you on.
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It is logic like this that is making the "third parties" look better and better everyday. Libertarianism thank you very much. Whose seeing Paul in MN for the rally for the republic? I'm considering it.
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Good point. Since I've never voted for anyone who won, how exactly am I responsible for all the spending these idiots have done? Again, those of us who vote for third party candidates have no representation in Washington.
That is a very good point.
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I think that this is one of the only issues (other than gun control) that I have ever agreed with you on.
Well shame on you. You should agree with me on everything.
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I think America should split so the Dems get the South and the Reps get the North (or a East and West type of thing), so that way everyone is represented accordingly to their beliefs. The libertarians get Alaska and Hawaii.

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