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Old 09-15-2004, 02:58 PM
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Default Radical turnaround in European views on Islam

http://www.virtuosityonline.org/port...p?storyid=1295

Interesting article. Europeans are more harshly critical of Islam than ever, and the line between liberal and conservative is becoming a blur on the subject of Islam and its propensity for violence.
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Oh no. European Scholars think Americans are "naive".
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Default We should not over react

America is a country that prides itself on its tolerance of religious freedom. We shouldn't go the route of others who, in my opinion, over react.
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"I wonder how Americans felt after watching this bloodbath on television," Schirrmacher concluded.
Yes, I wonder.

For reference, I have very little time for the French, and even less time for religion (God Schmog, the strongest survive). But I 100% agree with the French decision to ban ALL religious symbols within schools. What these idiots kidnapping French Civvies in Iraq, insisting the French Government do a u-turn on the banning of Muslim headscarves seemed to have overlooked......is that the Jewish skullcap and Cross of St.Christoper have also been banned.
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"I wonder how Americans felt after watching this bloodbath on television," Schirrmacher concluded.
Yes, I wonder.

For reference, I have very little time for the French, and even less time for religion (God Schmog, the strongest survive). But I 100% agree with the French decision to ban ALL religious symbols within schools. What these idiots kidnapping French Civvies in Iraq, insisting the French Government do a u-turn on the banning of Muslim headscarves seemed to have overlooked......is that the Jewish skullcap and Cross of St.Christoper have also been banned.

it is stupid to ban religious symbols if they do not create harm. I think the europeans should take actions but not do something so silly.
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I dont agree, I think these symbols DO do harm.

They create divisions, misunderstanding. They make the wearer an obvious target, instead of trying to stand out in a foreign country, why not concentrate on trying to blend in and fit in instead? When in Rome.........
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They create divisions, misunderstanding. They make the wearer an obvious target, instead of trying to stand out in a foreign country, why not concentrate on trying to blend in and fit in instead? When in Rome.........
Not a suprise to me personally. They dont value freedom as much as we do. That has been obvious to me for a long time.
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Not a suprise to me personally. They dont value freedom as much as we do. That has been obvious to me for a long time
And to the rest of the world. Must be why you're so popular.
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My understanding is that a true Muslim girl not only would not appear in public uncovered, but would also not attend a co-ed school. Muslims are already making some concessions, but I don't see the harm in allowing them to wear a headscarf.
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Muslims are already making some concessions, but I don't see the harm in allowing them to wear a headscarf
In public, fine. In schools, no. If by making all kids look the same in school, be they Muslim, Jew, Christian, teaches them that they ARE indeed all the same beneath all the religious claptrap, then go for it.

SS, do you ever come back with a reasoned debate, or just repeat your normal anti-european vitriol ad infinitum? .[/quote]
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