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I have said that if the fundamentalists turn out to be right
Anti-religionists always confuse mainstream belief with "fundamentalists." You destroy your own argument, thinking ONLY the fundies believe in Heaven. It's YOUR eternity if you believe that you don't.
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anyway, friends, can you stop making fun of my home state? Yes, we have a lot of wackos here but we also have a lot more general population.


hmmm, yeh well, ok. Only because I'm feeling generous today.


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February 27, 2007

HOUSTON, Texas: When an image of the Virgin Mary appeared on one of their pizza pans on Ash Wednesday, the dinner ladies at Pugh Elementary School knew that it had to be more than just the cheese and pepperoni talking. This had to be a message from God. Guadalupe Rodriguez, 59, who had scrubbed at the greasy stain to no avail, hastened to the head teacher for a second opinion. The principal confirmed that the school kitchens seemed to have been singled out for divine intervention.

Within hours, the apparition had become the talk of Houston and the pan a focus for pilgrims. One woman arrived at dawn the next day to seek healing for her disabled grandson; another prayed for God's blessing on her eight-year-old's coming hospital operation. Throughout the weekend, worshippers flocked to the home where the pan is now on display to pay their respects. "I see an image of the Blessed Mother. It's a sign that something is going to happen," one visitor, Vincent Santiago, said.

This is not the first time that the Virgin Mary's face has appeared in unlikely places. Previous examples of simulacra -- religious images appearing on inanimate objects -- include a grilled cheese sandwich bearing the outline of the Madonna, which fetched $US28,000 on the internet for its Florida owner in 2004. She preserved the sandwich in a plastic container, after noticing a Virgin Mary shape on the bread. In 2005, hundreds of visitors left flowers, candles and rosaries in a Chicago underpass after salt residue created a stain resembling the Virgin Mary.

Scientists call this phenomenon religious pareidolia, when the eye sees religious images in objects such as tree trunks and grilled cheese sandwiches. But for true believers, science has nothing to do with it.

The so-called miracle of Pugh Elementary unfolded as Ms Rodriguez scoured the pans that had been used to cook the pupils' lunch of pizza, chicken nuggets and cookies. "On the third rinse, I started watching it, trying to discover what it was," she said. "It showed to me like it is the Virgin Mary."

Anel Villareal, a pupil, recalled the excitement around the school. "They said, 'The Virgin is in the cafeteria' and I ran over there to see and, my God, it was the Virgin. I cried when I see her with my own eyes."

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Actually, I like Texas. Keep in mind, Bush wasn't from Texas.
Indeed, W. was actually born in New Haven, Connecticut. So, I guess the North must bear some responsibility for him.
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That particular 'lesson' from the christian religious text was one of the reasons I needed to find a better religion than the one I grew up with - - that's one of the most disgusting pieces of pornography ever written.


And OH! the contradictions!! The christians claim their god construct is omniscient - all-powerful, all-knowing.
Yet the supposed reason for the Abraham horror is so that Abraham would prove his love/trust in that god construct.

Why did the god not know whether Abraham loved/trusted him?

Why did the god choose murder most foul as his lesson plan?

That story came off as a petty tyrant god construct with security issues.
Talk about not being held enough as a child!
There are some who have exegeted that God's asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac (and then providing a ram caught in the thickets as an alternate sacrifice at the last minute) was a way of having Abraham and his descendants after him separate themselves from the other Semitic religions of the time, with their human sacrifices.
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