How The Muslims See The Usa - Page 2

TheBasicsAbout · #11 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by paragon

There are around 10,000 Muslims in the US military. I'm sure they don't see the US in the way you put it. Some of them serve in Iraq and some in Afghanistan and some in other places. And they are every bit as patriotic as any other member of the military.

really?? gee - who da thunk ... bubba

are you that much of a minimal thinking biped to have a need to say that?

I'm Italian - I do NOT stereotype ...

since you are such a gifted thinker then you probably did know
that there were a bunch of Muslim's who recently started a petition to condemn terrorism? or were you JUST spouting off your propaganda without actually knowing anything?

Quote:

Muslim Petition Decries Terror
National Islamic Group Seeks Backers of Online Initiative
By Caryle Murphy
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 14, 2004; Page B06

A national Muslim advocacy group announced yesterday that it is asking Muslims around the world to sign an online petition condemning terrorism as "un-Islamic" and a betrayal of their faith.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004May13.html

or on the flip side:

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United Nations Investigate Koran
http://www.petitiononline.com/ukd2005/

To: United Nations Security Council

From the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

Article 1

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They
are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one
another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this
Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour,
sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social
origin, property, birth or other status....

Article 3

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
Article 4

No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading
treatment or punishment.

Article 6

All are equal before the law and are entitled without any
discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to
equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this
Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 18

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion;
this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and
freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or
private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice,
worship and observance.

How does Islam square with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Both Dhimmitude & slavery practiced by Islam contravene #1. Article #2 goes down under the weight of Islamic misanthropy and intolerance! Article #3 is contravened by Islam's declaration of open season on Kufar. Article #4 can not withstand death by stoning or hand amputation. Dhimmitude & misanthropy take down Article #6. Since "Only Allah has the right to be worshipped.", nobody has the right to freedom of religion, so Article 18 goes down as well.

I am sure you are just now seeing these articles.

TheBasicsAbout · #12 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug_yvr

Outstanding find. [sarcasm]Thank you for gifting us with this well thought out and intelligently written piece.[/sarcasm]

Caps lock problem again? And pssst...it's 'too'.

aww - so sweet ...

[sarcasm][/sarcasm]

is that what the Cheerleaders do now a days?

Yes - it is also SARCASM

Shiva_TD · #13 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BFOJ

I doubt the people of Muslim countries see all that much to begin with. With their abject poverty, being forced to abide by archaic laws and government control of everything, many would probably prefer migrating to a country that has all the problem issues you and the others mentioned. Take a trip, travel to one of those countries for yourself and experience it, talk to the people there, bring your Bible, the experience you gain will perhaps provide you new insight into the situation. Otherwise all your complaints about America and the free world is "Talk, just talk". Now, where did I hear those words before? Oh yes, now I remember.

While my statement was paraphased my source is the 2006 National Intelligence Estimate from the US government and it was limited to those that are likely to become terrorists.

I do know Muslims that have immigrated to the United States from Iran, Iraq, Samolia, and other countries and they have a different idea of the United States but universally they have told me that the US invasions in the Middle East are negatively viewed by the majority of Muslims. Whether this is true or not I don't know and I only repeat their opinion.

And I would not take a book of mythology anywhere.

Inferno · #14 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 06:15 PM

Would this be all followers of Islam or just some? LOl This thread is really funny. Best laugh i have had in days.

BFOJ · #15 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shiva_TD

While my statement was paraphased my source is the 2006 National Intelligence Estimate from the US government and it was limited to those that are likely to become terrorists.

I do know Muslims that have immigrated to the United States from Iran, Iraq, Samolia, and other countries and they have a different idea of the United States but universally they have told me that the US invasions in the Middle East are negatively viewed by the majority of Muslims. Whether this is true or not I don't know and I only repeat their opinion.

And I would not take a book of mythology anywhere.

I suppose the book of mythology is the Holy Bible you are referring to. I guess you wouldn't take that book to a Muslim country. It'd be like signing your death cerificate in advance. Wimp!

paragon · #16 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBasicsAbout

really?? gee - who da thunk ... bubba

are you that much of a minimal thinking biped to have a need to say that?

I'm Italian - I do NOT stereotype ...

since you are such a gifted thinker then you probably did know
that there were a bunch of Muslim's who recently started a petition to condemn terrorism? or were you JUST spouting off your propaganda without actually knowing anything?

or on the flip side:

I am sure you are just now seeing these articles.

What the hell are you blabbering about?
Your post has absolutely no structure and no apparent point other than to ridicule me for some unknown reason. I got my information from here

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The statistics are drawn from personnel records that include a "religious faith code," a rubric soldiers are asked, but not obliged, to complete. Some Muslims in the military say their real number is higher, and estimates go up to 10,000.

Try actually forming a coherent argument. Until then, don't fancy yourself as having anything more than a rudimentary ability to process information.

i.beletesri · #17 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBasicsAbout

I'm Italian - I do NOT stereotype ...

Isn't saying Italians don't stereotype--- Stereotyping?

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A national Muslim advocacy group announced yesterday that it is asking Muslims around ..

That article you link refers to CAIR, who's Had their OWN terrorist problems.
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Makedde · #18 (**permalink**) 08-24-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBasicsAbout

THE MUSLIM WORLD SEES US AS THE PORNO CAPITOL OF THE WORLD WITH A DIVORCE RATE THAT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
THEY SEE AN ABORTION POLICY THAT KILLS THOUSANDS OF UNBORN EACH YEAR

THEY SEE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM THAT DESTINES THE SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS AND HEALTH CARE INDUSTRIES HEADING FOR BANKRUPTCY.

THEY SEE FOREIGN NATIONALS WHO HATE AMERICA ENTER THE COUNTRY WITH EASE AND LOG INTO THE WELFARE SYSTEM PAID BY THE AMERICAN WORKERS.

THEY SEE LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDGES - POLITICIANS -DISTORTING THE CONSTITUTION.

THEY SEE LEGALIZING GAY MARRIAGE REMOVING PRAYER AND GOD FROM OUR SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS.

THEY SEE THE FILTH DISTRIBUTED BY HOLLYWEIRD AND THE PORNO SHOPS OUT OF CONTROL CRIME DUE TO DRUGS PEDOPHILES PRIEST TEACHERS ETC

THEY SEE THE ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION THAT IS BRINGING AMERICA TO HER KNEES

DEMAND BY CHINA AND INDIA HAS ESCALATED OIL PRICES WORLD WIDE.

U.S.A. DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL UP FROM 40% IN THE 1970'S TO A WHOPPING 65% + TODAY & GROWING

ENVIRONMENTALISTS PREVENT DOMESTIC OIL DRILLING AND BUILDING NEW REFINERIES.

US TRADE DEFICIT IS OVER 763 BILLION DOLLARS AND RISING EVERY DAY. YOUR SHARE AROUND $29000.00 EACH

A NATIONAL DEBT OF OVER 8 TRILLION DOLLARS AND RISING.

A DOLLAR THAT ISN'T WORTH THE MONEY IT TOOK TO CREATE IT.

U.S. RAPIDLY MOVING TOWARDS A WELFARE STATE.

MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION LIVING ON CREDIT CARDS. THE REST ARE A PAY CHECK AWAY FROM LIVING ON THE STREETS OR WORSE.

MANUFACTURING MOVING OUT OF AMERICA BECAUSE HER WORKERS DEMANDS SUCH HIGH WAGES. THEY ARE PUTTING THEMSELVES OUT OF WORK IN THE LONG RUN. LOOK AT THE JOBS THAT HAVE LEFT THE COUNTRY IN THE PAST 15 YRS.

AUTO INDUSTRY WAS NUMBER ONE. NOW JAPAN HAS THAT BECAUSE OF BETTER CARS BETTER GAS MILEAGE BETTER LOOKS ALL AROUND BETTER QUALITY.

DETROIT CAN'T SEEM TO GRASP BECAUSE OF THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR THAT FALLS BACK TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WORKING FORCE DEMANDING HIGHER WAGES FOR SAME WORK. THEN THEY WONDER WHY THE JOBS ARE LEAVING THE USA.

Thanks to the http://www.unitedstateswarriors.com/ site

Sounds like the way the Conservatives see America, doncha think?

Çaka · #19 (**permalink**) 08-24-2008, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBasicsAbout

THE MUSLIM WORLD SEES US AS THE PORNO CAPITOL OF THE WORLD WITH A DIVORCE RATE THAT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
THEY SEE AN ABORTION POLICY THAT KILLS THOUSANDS OF UNBORN EACH YEAR

THEY SEE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION SYSTEM THAT DESTINES THE SOCIAL WELFARE SYSTEMS AND HEALTH CARE INDUSTRIES HEADING FOR BANKRUPTCY.

THEY SEE FOREIGN NATIONALS WHO HATE AMERICA ENTER THE COUNTRY WITH EASE AND LOG INTO THE WELFARE SYSTEM PAID BY THE AMERICAN WORKERS.

THEY SEE LIBERAL ACTIVIST JUDGES - POLITICIANS -DISTORTING THE CONSTITUTION.

THEY SEE LEGALIZING GAY MARRIAGE REMOVING PRAYER AND GOD FROM OUR SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS.

THEY SEE THE FILTH DISTRIBUTED BY HOLLYWEIRD AND THE PORNO SHOPS OUT OF CONTROL CRIME DUE TO DRUGS PEDOPHILES PRIEST TEACHERS ETC

THEY SEE THE ECONOMIC DESTRUCTION THAT IS BRINGING AMERICA TO HER KNEES

DEMAND BY CHINA AND INDIA HAS ESCALATED OIL PRICES WORLD WIDE.

U.S.A. DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL UP FROM 40% IN THE 1970'S TO A WHOPPING 65% + TODAY & GROWING

ENVIRONMENTALISTS PREVENT DOMESTIC OIL DRILLING AND BUILDING NEW REFINERIES.

US TRADE DEFICIT IS OVER 763 BILLION DOLLARS AND RISING EVERY DAY. YOUR SHARE AROUND $29000.00 EACH

A NATIONAL DEBT OF OVER 8 TRILLION DOLLARS AND RISING.

A DOLLAR THAT ISN'T WORTH THE MONEY IT TOOK TO CREATE IT.

U.S. RAPIDLY MOVING TOWARDS A WELFARE STATE.

MAJORITY OF THE POPULATION LIVING ON CREDIT CARDS. THE REST ARE A PAY CHECK AWAY FROM LIVING ON THE STREETS OR WORSE.

MANUFACTURING MOVING OUT OF AMERICA BECAUSE HER WORKERS DEMANDS SUCH HIGH WAGES. THEY ARE PUTTING THEMSELVES OUT OF WORK IN THE LONG RUN. LOOK AT THE JOBS THAT HAVE LEFT THE COUNTRY IN THE PAST 15 YRS.

AUTO INDUSTRY WAS NUMBER ONE. NOW JAPAN HAS THAT BECAUSE OF BETTER CARS BETTER GAS MILEAGE BETTER LOOKS ALL AROUND BETTER QUALITY.

DETROIT CAN'T SEEM TO GRASP BECAUSE OF THE ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR THAT FALLS BACK TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WORKING FORCE DEMANDING HIGHER WAGES FOR SAME WORK. THEN THEY WONDER WHY THE JOBS ARE LEAVING THE USA.

Thanks to the http://www.unitedstateswarriors.com/ site

What a schizophrenia !

submarinepainter · #20 (**permalink**) 08-24-2008, 03:33 AM

I say who gives a rats patootie what the Muzzies think , lets get our doo doo together and get our country back

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