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Old 08-24-2008, 06:26 AM
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It depends upon which government you are talking about. It was clearly defined for the United States in the Declaration of Independence.

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So, yes, the United States is established upon the consent of the government BUT we need to be careful because in the case of the United States it is the State government which the People instituted and the State governments created the Federal government by transferring power previously delegated by the People to the State. Effectively, the State governments represent the People and the Federal government represents the States.

The US Constitution clearly established this because the US Constitution was ratified by the States and amendments can only be ratified by the States and not by the People. There has never been a Constituional issue voted on by the People and lacking an amendment changing this the People will never vote on a Constitutional amendment. Additionally the President is elected by the States and not the People and originally Senators were elected by the States and not the People (later changed because State legislatures were inept at replacing Senators which needed to be replaced in mid-term).

Based upon the US Constitution the federal government should only be concerned with international affairs and affairs that affect the States and not the People directly. It is assumed that if the federal government does something to benefit the States that the People will benefit indirectly because of it.
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Most politicians enter government with their own ideas about how things should be run regardless of what the people want. So they usually have to dim down their ideas and change their goals to just fit their voters. But they still make decisions for themselves. It would seem better if they ignored their personal beliefs and simple did what the majority wanted on everything but that said they do have to be able to lead. Not just a powerful estension of the masses caving into their every desire nomatter what it is. That alone has a whole array of problems.
There is one flaw in your theory, however: true, most politicians enter government with their own ideas about how things should be run, but it is fair to assume that if the majority of the people vote for a politician they must agree with him. What do you want? Do you think that politicians should get elected simply by promising to do "whatever the people want" and then sit around taking polls their entire term hoping to determine "what the people want"? Really, now! How well would that work?
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Youre assuming that the USA is a democracy - it is not

The USA is best described as an Oligarchical Private Plutocracy that props up corporations via Corporate socialistic welfare hand outs and bias legisaltion.

"Governments are the shadows cast by big business on society" (John Dewey)

Now if theat great american thinker John Dewey knew about this over 100 years ago and actually warned the American public about it, WHY DOESNT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT TODAY and do something about it???

Brainwashing propaganda must be so intense in the USA today - I can only imagine how difficult it would be for an American to be trully free from it and to be able to think for themsleves.

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