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Old 08-23-2008, 11:08 AM
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Default Is government really representative of the people?

Candidates love us and care about us when they want to be elected.

They give speeches and tell us all their plans for the country. They have debates.

Once they are elected we lose our input.

They do what they want. They ignore the promises. They ignore us until it's time to be re elected.

Do you think we should have a way to have a recall if we the people want one?

Do you think we should have say on large issues?

Do you think we should vote on governmental pay increases?

Do you think we should have a chance to express our opinions on the issues that really matter to our lives?

With the Internet and computer polling, shouldn't we have the chance to vote on many of the issues?

It is easy enough to do. If there were an issue you would like to vote on you would vote via computer. It would not need to be a binding vote but it would let the politicians know that we are watching. It would tell them that we are the most important part.

If then they don't do what they promised we could vote to demand a recall. They would be far more responsive to the people.

What do you think?
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Old 08-23-2008, 11:31 AM
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I think we are the forgotten after the vote to elect. I think that the people should have a way to recall at any time. It does not happen enough.

The politition should be responsive to the people that voted them in and they are not.
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I think we are the forgotten after the vote to elect. I think that the people should have a way to recall at any time. It does not happen enough.

The politition should be responsive to the people that voted them in and they are not.
A recall only in extreme cases such as illegal activity or insanity, which some may suggest happens with just about all politicians. Seriously, how can one govern if they think just about anything they do might lead to a recall? On the one hand that make them more careful before they suggest or take action on their part, but on the other hand they may not do anything for the same reasons.

I say in most cases the people vote the bum out at the next election cycle. The problem is that most people don't pay enough attention to what their respresentatives say and do and continue to vote for them anyway. How sad!
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That's the problem with representative government. Regular people are oft left out of the loop.

If you had a system where everyone voted every time, however, the political system would slow to a crawl and would be unwieldly.
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That's the problem with representative government. Regular people are oft left out of the loop.

If you had a system where everyone voted every time, however, the political system would slow to a crawl and would be unwieldly.
It's already at a crawl.
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Who ever said that the government is representative of the people?
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Most politicians enter government with their own ideas about how things should be run regardless of what the people want. So they usually have to dim down their ideas and change their goals to just fit their voters. But they still make decisions for themselves. It would seem better if they ignored their personal beliefs and simple did what the majority wanted on everything but that said they do have to be able to lead. Not just a powerful estension of the masses caving into their every desire nomatter what it is. That alone has a whole array of problems.
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Most politicians enter government with their own ideas about how things should be run regardless of what the people want. So they usually have to dim down their ideas and change their goals to just fit their voters. But they still make decisions for themselves. It would seem better if they ignored their personal beliefs and simple did what the majority wanted on everything but that said they do have to be able to lead. Not just a powerful estension of the masses caving into their every desire nomatter what it is. That alone has a whole array of problems.
And do you really think politicians will just ignore their own personal beliefs?
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While I admit the current system isn't perfect I'm not sure I like the alternatives.


For example the idea that people are experts on a wide variety of topics is just wrong. They aren't, and even if they could be the vast majority wouldn't bother.

Also if there was some kind of vote of no confidence thing it would likely be used all the freaking time, unless it was very hard to instigate (if it could be done well I would support it though).
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Most politicians enter government with their own ideas about how things should be run regardless of what the people want. So they usually have to dim down their ideas and change their goals to just fit their voters. But they still make decisions for themselves. It would seem better if they ignored their personal beliefs and simple did what the majority wanted on everything but that said they do have to be able to lead. Not just a powerful estension of the masses caving into their every desire nomatter what it is. That alone has a whole array of problems.
I would be very suspicious of a politician that 'ignored their personal beliefs'. I want politicians that are principled and take a stand, not one who 'simply did what the majority wanted on everything'. There are plenty of examples in the American history that what the majority wanted was just plain wrong.

Politicians are suppose to represent all the people of their jurisdiction, although that is difficult with the diversity of their voters opinions. I say voters, because non-voters just let us voters pick their choice for them.
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