Well Utopia doesn't happen, so the Marxist Model is irrational in a sense. There is a quote on the inside of my Qur'an that states in English "Any society free of a negative impulse is an impossibility" (Speaking of islam as a religion that later changes to solipsism during meditation)

If people come together voluntarily and agree to live in a Communist society, then it will work so long as those people are still voluntarily engaging in that society. As soon as people begin to stop providing their share and continue taking more than what they produce, or as soon as someone in the society tries to force people to continue providing, the system becomes doomed to failure, either by economic collapse or by the centralization of power. But since people will never come together like that voluntarily on a national scale, Communism as a form of government can never work, only in voluntarily formed communes can it work.

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"It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a 'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.

--Murray Rothbard

It is called a kibbutz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz

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Everything about the War on Terror(ism) is aggravating.

A commune fueled by antisemitism?
I think a communist society would have a much better shot at stability if given a foreign enemy/common goal/common enemy. Especially in a dictatorship.

I think you misunderstood my link.

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My enduring personal, original quote: Many mistake what should rightly be called "passivism" for pacifism. Pacifism and passivism are COMPLETELY different.
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Everything about the War on Terror(ism) is aggravating.

It's not about Utopia, it's a prediction based on what's known about human history and society. Even the achievement of communism won't see a Utopia, there'll be plenty wrong with it. No human society is going to be free of misery.

You can research it here in the United States, a number of communal living programs have been tried during the 60s and 70s only to end in failure. Then closer to home Cuba would be an example. My opinion, communism is evil and takes freedom and personal responsibility away from human beings.

Note North Korea and USSR

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Did you know the word "gullible" isn't in the dictionary?

Tresha quote:
I'm not sure why you are under the impression that because someone has mental health problems, they are incapable of intelligent and rational thought.

Well, let's put it this way:
There exist perfect little islands of communism right here in the United States. Everybody has food, shelter, and clothing provided. Everybody works, and they are all considered equal.
It's called "prison".
So long as examples of freedom exist in the world and they know about it, they will always try to escape.

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Ventura/ Paul '12

I hate to state the obvious but a prison is a form of internal exile from the greater society and prisons exist in all forms of economic society and in general they're run along the same lines albeit their programmes for rehabilitation may be different. Now, being places of internal exile (I know, a contradiction in terms but I'm going to call it a neologism) it stands to reason that the desire of anyone in there is to return to the host culture (except for those unfortunate individuals who have been institutionalised).

So the metaphor isn't apt.

In a communist society all people are truly free and aren't suffering under the illusion of freedom that exists now, even in an advanced capitalist society.

Do you seriously believe that the provincial and local leaders in China are not answerable to Jiang Zemin?

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