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Old 09-30-2004, 05:05 PM
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You misunderstood. I was saying yes to basically all of the above, which was that some people hate the US for jealousy etc, but others have a good reason. You posed an impossible question because, in answering it, one would have to suppose that they know everyone else's reason. You cannot know everyone's reason for hating America. You can't even know in general simply because everybody has a reason they explain, and then one they don't. All you are doing right now is presenting to us why you hate America and then assuming that most of the world agrees with you.
O I think I could pretty much guess why an Iraqi, Vietnamese, North Korean Iranian might hate the US.

Off course, my method is not bulletproof, but good enough.
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The final yes is referring to your final question which is "Or, could it be that they have good reason for hating the USA?". And powergrid SPECIFICALLY said "Some people have good reasons". You did misunderstand the statement genius.
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The final yes is referring to your final question which is "Or, could it be that they have good reason for hating the USA?". And powergrid SPECIFICALLY said "Some people have good reasons". You did misunderstand the statement genius.
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O I think I could pretty much guess why an Iraqi, Vietnamese, North Korean Iranian might hate the US.
Actually the Iraqi and Vietnamese influx is huge where I live even from before the war. So I doubt they hate America. The point of that is that soem people hate us, some people like us. What you are doing is taking an official political position (Like North Korea's official political opinion of us) and mistaking it for the opinion of all the people.
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If the USA is so hated, why are people from all over the world trying to emmigrate here? I guess the same must be true of North Korea, huh, people clamoring to enter that people's paradise?
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Yeah, remember all those Iraqis telling the US to go home as they entered the cities? They weren't cheering or yelling down with Saddam, and tearing down his statue. that must have been a figment of my imagination.
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Yeah, remember all those Iraqis telling the US to go home as they entered the cities? They weren't cheering or yelling down with Saddam, and tearing down his statue. that must have been a figment of my imagination.
What does that have to do with anything?
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O I think I could pretty much guess why an Iraqi, Vietnamese, North Korean Iranian might hate the US.
Actually the Iraqi and Vietnamese influx is huge where I live even from before the war. So I doubt they hate America. The point of that is that soem people hate us, some people like us. What you are doing is taking an official political position (Like North Korea's official political opinion of us) and mistaking it for the opinion of all the people.
O there are two definitions of America. One is America as a territory, the other is all the things America does to the world. America is a beautiful country, I've been there plenty of times, but the things it does, especially imperialistic things are disgusting.

For instance, when people who have just lost all their relatives due to American bombs scream "down with America" they mean the second definition of America. They don't mean that America should go under the ground literally.
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If the USA is so hated, why are people from all over the world trying to emmigrate here? I guess the same must be true of North Korea, huh, people clamoring to enter that people's paradise?
Why do you think that is?

Because of all the $$$$$$$ of course.

The US has seized most of the world riches and therefor people want to benefit of that. In ancient times people also tried to get to Rome, not because the Romans were such good guys, but because the money was there.......................and people got to eat.
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Because of all the $$$$$$$ of course.

The US has seized most of the world riches and therefor people want to benefit of that. In ancient times people also tried to get to Rome, not because the Romans were such good guys, but because the money was there.......................and people got to eat.
It's the freedom. You seem to have cause and effect reversed. The freedom led to the riches, not the other way around.
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