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Old 09-09-2008, 07:14 AM
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I'll make sure I quit my full-time job and drop out of school to keep up with all of the happenings in the big oil industry, minute-by-minute. Thanks for the tip, MATE.
You didnt seem to need to quit your job and school to drop your two uninformed cents in here.

Its just common sense,when debating,to at least have the most up to date info if youre going to go thru the trouble of typing something in the first place.

BTW-the second article you googled was natural gas,not oil and Shell is Anglo-Dutch.
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Its time we duked this out once and for all. Was the war in iraq a war for oil?

For me I just don't see how. All you need to do is look at the numbers to see their is no profit. Spending trillions on invading overthrowing and running an entire country there is just not that much oil to make it at all feasible. There just isn't.

Also no oil was actually taken from iraq. Not a drop. There was no fleet of oil cruisers and miles of pipeline to carry and the sunshine happy oil back to the land of clouds and fairys. There just wasn't.

So how was the war in iraq for oil? or was it just to find imaginary WMD's? I'm happy to admit the (*)(*)(*)(*)up and im sure the liberals are too..
So given the horrible job the administration did prosecuting the war, you expect them somehow to get this one part, the oil part, right?

I believe the war was about oil and the PNAC's ideas of US hegemony.
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I believe (Meaning Opinion) That Bush and Co did believe he had WMDs. It was proven that Saddam was saying he did have wmds (I have provided links before). He was scared of Iran attacking him is the reason he was claiming to have them. Iran would do things to him that the USA wouldn’t even think about. The USA being hit with 9/11 and it was done by Middle East Terrorist. Put two and two together and said since Saddam is saying he has WMDs, we need to go in a kick his rear, before he gives one to who knows who.

I, Saryk wanted his head mounted in the White House way before 9/11. When he was shooting at our planes in the no fly sectors. And for seeing his butt on TV every night because he was sending the UN inspectors away, again. That was before Bushy.


My biggest complaint about Iraq, we should have won and left. And let the chips lay where they may.
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My biggest complaint about Iraq, we should have won and left. And let the chips lay where they may.
Read the documentation here and you will see why we did not leave.
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Read the documentation here and you will see why we did not leave.
I think that after everything was said and done, after the war. People wanted to put their hands in the cookie jar. I do think that is possible. But when 9/11 happened, I don’t think that was on their minds. But I could be wrong and it wouldn’t be the first time.

I would really, really like to see 10-100 year of no war, energy crisis, or crime on TV.
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I would really, really like to see 10-100 year of no war, energy crisis, or crime on TV.
Me too, that's why I'm not voting for the candidate that voted for Bush policies 90% of the time.
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....has made the case brilliantly - namely that the invasion of Iraq was about oil. However, it would be a mistake to believe that the neocons are primarily motivated by oil. The Iraq war ought to be viewed more in terms.....
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....of US geopolitical and imperial strategy in the context of a rapidly emerging superpower competitor in the form of China.

So whilst it is undoubtably true that Iraq is about the control of the middle east oil supply....
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....the main reason for the invasion - of which oil is the very welcome by-product - is the overt expression of US strategic and military power in the face of a new potential rival in the form of China.
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Its time we duked this out once and for all. Was the war in iraq a war for oil?

For me I just don't see how. All you need to do is look at the numbers to see their is no profit. Spending trillions on invading overthrowing and running an entire country there is just not that much oil to make it at all feasible. There just isn't.

Also no oil was actually taken from iraq. Not a drop. There was no fleet of oil cruisers and miles of pipeline to carry and the sunshine happy oil back to the land of clouds and fairys. There just wasn't.

So how was the war in iraq for oil? or was it just to find imaginary WMD's? I'm happy to admit the (*)(*)(*)(*)up and im sure the liberals are too..
Partly, that and economic too. Look at the Haifa/Kirkuk pipeline and it's development. Saves shipping oil through the Strait of Hormuz passing Iran on it's way to markets in Europe. It's a much better route across the desert and replaces the former 8 inch pipeline that once was.
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