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Old 09-09-2008, 07:13 PM
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Then who moved into Georgia and damaged their oil production? Russia is moving into Georgia why? OIL. The Russians hit a major oil deposit in the Caspian in July and is going to start production starting in September.

Sad that it takes Nancy Pelosi ten to fifteen years to get oil to market but the Russians can do it in a matter of months. What a bunch of BSers the Dems are.
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....the main reason for the invasion - of which oil is the very welcome by-product - is the overt expression of US strategic and military power in the face of a new potential rival in the form of China.
You could be right but it really seems like the old chicken and egg conundrum. Without the desperate need for Middle East Oil by the US and the other major players like China, it seems the ME has little significant strategic interest.
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Yes, quite true. I guess the main point I was trying to get across was to highlight the nature of capitalism, whose very existence is predicated upon its inherent tendency to expand and intensify on a global scale. Hence, the economic competition between firms on a national scale leads eventually to the subjugation of small nation states by the bigger more powerful nation states. This in turn, leads to economic competition between the major players which is a necessary prelude to the type of conflict we are currently witnessing in the middle east. In other words, it is capitalism itself which is the source of global conflict, not the issue of oil per se.
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Its time we duked this out once and for all. Was the war in iraq a war for oil?

For me I just don't see how. All you need to do is look at the numbers to see their is no profit. Spending trillions on invading overthrowing and running an entire country there is just not that much oil to make it at all feasible. There just isn't.

Also no oil was actually taken from iraq. Not a drop. There was no fleet of oil cruisers and miles of pipeline to carry and the sunshine happy oil back to the land of clouds and fairys. There just wasn't.

So how was the war in iraq for oil? or was it just to find imaginary WMD's? I'm happy to admit the (*)(*)(*)(*)up and im sure the liberals are too..
It was a war for oligarchy.
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