Its time we duked this out once and for all. Was the war in iraq a war for oil?

For me I just don't see how. All you need to do is look at the numbers to see their is no profit. Spending trillions on invading overthrowing and running an entire country there is just not that much oil to make it at all feasible. There just isn't.

Also no oil was actually taken from iraq. Not a drop. There was no fleet of oil cruisers and miles of pipeline to carry and the sunshine happy oil back to the land of clouds and fairys. There just wasn't.

So how was the war in iraq for oil? or was it just to find imaginary WMD's? I'm happy to admit the (*)(*)(*)(*)up and im sure the liberals are too..

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All the Oil in Iraq was already claimed and being distributed by the same companies it is now when we invaded. If there actually were massive amounts of Oil to be claimed you would've seen a lot more global participation then there was.

Iraq was the next target in the War on Terror, the information we invaded on was factual and we found the WMD's that were described to exist, end of story.

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There's more to controlling oil, I think, than just financial profit. The US is so dependant on the crap that any expense becomes worth the price. Just to a source within the Middle East from a US friendly source is worth the effort.

I don't think the war was only for oil. It was about removing a leader who may have supported terrorists in the future, about freeing Iraqis from a ruthless dictator, and oil (or at least it should have been).

The Middle East is a vast desert dotted with fundamentalist nations where most people still live in a virtual stone age, yet the area is the focus of attention of every significant nation in the world. Of course that has to do with the oceans of oil under the area. The attack on the World Trade Center and the war on terrorism is all ultimately revolves around oil. If there were no oil in the Middle East, no one would be interested in the area.

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The logic was that Saddam presented too great of a risk of supporting terrorist against the US in the future, and it's not like such a fear was unwarranted. It's widely known that Saddam had supported suicide bombers against Israel by offering to send payments to their family after their death. Don't get me wrong. I didn't support the war in Iraq, but I have no doubt that we would have had to deal with Saddam sooner or later.

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I believe the main reason for the Iraq invasion was that the Bush Administration's handlers felt that if we deposed Saddam Hussein's government, we would be able to set up a new government that could be coerced into allowing us to base an unlimited number of troops there indefinitely. I'm sure they hoped to grab more oil profit as a side line but I don't think oil was the main motivation.

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Seriously, what are you talking about? Bill O'Reilly wouldn't even spout off nonsense like this. Saddam Hussein nationalized Iraq's oil fields decades ago, and the contracts are now being awarded to American companies....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/29/we...ew/29good.html

Maybe because Ronald Reagan sold Saddam Hussein biological and chemical weapons?

To answer OP, I think the war was far more personal for many Bush Administration officials. With the exception of Colin Powell, all of those neocons involved in the first term of the Bush white house had personal beef with Hussein, including but not limited to Bush himself, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz. It was Bush's goal long before he took office to overthrow and murder Saddam....he planned it all the way through. The oil was likely a fringe benefit.

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Those 'Big Oil' service contracts were rescinded.

Get with the program:

China clinches first Iraq oil deal
Damien McElroy Acre, Iraq
September 9, 2008
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CHINA has secured Iraq's first post-Saddam oil deal by reviving a 1997 concession to exploit reserves on the al-Ahdab field south of the capital, Baghdad.

The two countries are expected to sign an agreement later this month that will earn the state-controlled China National Petroleum Corporation a fixed price for every barrel it produces in Iraq.

While China opposed the Iraq war and stood back from post-conflict rebuilding, Beijing has outflanked its global rivals to grab a slice of Iraq's oil industry.

The pioneers of its overseas quest for fuel are already exploring vast tracts in the country's Kurdish north.

With an extensive foothold in the only part of the country where new oil wells have been built since 2003, Chinese firms are believed to have more personnel than their US rivals.

America has contested every step of China's drive over a decade to expand its oil industry in central Asia and Africa.

Beijing's success in the new battleground represents a double blow for Washington, whose troops are still engaged in fighting for Iraq's security.

As stability improves, Baghdad hopes its output can triple to 6 million barrels a day.

The latest Chinese outpost is a mountain camp pitched 1400 metres above sea level by the China National Petroleum Corporation, which has signed a contract to explore a 70-by-19-kilometre tract.

The sensitivity of the Chinese presence is betrayed by the camp's heavy fortifications. Scientists in the 100-strong team leave only to conduct surveys in heavily armed convoys.

The site's chief geologist, Chao Shu-he, said: "The Chinese have opened the door to co-operation. China is more and more developed and it's our patriotic duty to contribute to development, even if we are far from home."

Oil executives complain that China is the only big country that is prepared to work in Iraq.

DNO, a Norwegian firm that produces 10,000 barrels a day in Kurdistan, said it solicited "dozens" of well-known firms before signing a drilling contract with another Chinese firm, Great Wall Drilling.

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Here is what I think.

Was the war about Oil? Not directly.

Would we care about the middle east if it wasn't for oil? Nope.

Would we have gone to war in Iraq if there wasn't Oil? Nope. One of the main argument for the war was overthrowing a dictator that could not only cause turmoil in in the mideast but possibly be a threat to the US. I think if it wasn't for the oil we would care as much about the stability of the ME as we do about stability in Africa.

Well, nuclear weapons aside of course. No nukes, no oil, no war cause we wouldn't care.

So more domestic production is the first step towards less involvement in the mideast. I have to agree with Palin