Originally Posted by GoSlash27

"The average American family" saw income rise $7,500 under Bill Clinton and decline $2,000 under George Bush.

Originally Posted by midcan5

Do republicans lie purposely to deceive, is it a clever propagandist device? John McCain and Sarah Palin engaged in lies over and over this past week. McCain about Obama's tax policy and who it would impact and Palin about her support for the bridge to nowhere.

Contrast this with Bush and Cheney, they repeated lie after lie about Iraq and WMDs. It is an interesting tactic as most people watching are not fact checking, so even when the lie is repeated over and over again, few are aware of the actual situation. Statistically lying becomes a political tool that distorts issues and confuse voters.

This is where media needs to say they are doing it again.


"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

Originally Posted by midcan5

Do republicans lie purposely to deceive, is it a clever propagandist device? John McCain and Sarah Palin engaged in lies over and over this past week. McCain about Obama's tax policy and who it would impact and Palin about her support for the bridge to nowhere.

Contrast this with Bush and Cheney, they repeated lie after lie about Iraq and WMDs. It is an interesting tactic as most people watching are not fact checking, so even when the lie is repeated over and over again, few are aware of the actual situation. Statistically lying becomes a political tool that distorts issues and confuse voters.

This is where media needs to say they are doing it again.


"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

Originally Posted by midcan5

Do republicans lie purposely to deceive, is it a clever propagandist device? John McCain and Sarah Palin engaged in lies over and over this past week. McCain about Obama's tax policy and who it would impact and Palin about her support for the bridge to nowhere.

Contrast this with Bush and Cheney, they repeated lie after lie about Iraq and WMDs. It is an interesting tactic as most people watching are not fact checking, so even when the lie is repeated over and over again, few are aware of the actual situation. Statistically lying becomes a political tool that distorts issues and confuse voters.

This is where media needs to say they are doing it again.


"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

Originally Posted by midcan5

I don't agree. I would have to see some examples that are as clear as the recent McCain/Palin lies. I think there is a cynicism scale that dilutes our values. Jedediah Purdy did a good analysis of that sentiment in "For Common Things."



A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote against the fundamental principle of America, the right of the individual to lead their life privately without the government interfering.

Originally Posted by Makedde