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I've been watching, and listening now, for about 6 months, and I genuinely believe that current events are more horrible than any nightmare.

I'm sure the concept of political distraction is common knowledge. But there is more to it than I think we can grasp; so much going on, I doubt the people pulling the strings are even in sync.

Why can't we simply stay focused? I mean I LOVE the political circus lol. But HOW in the world do civilized human beings justify this sort of behavior? I live on C-SPAN and Youtube these days, and I am thoroughly amazed at the lack of brainpower the average American has devolved to. Well, here's what I have to say about it, and I hope that if even for a second, this will pull someone to think outside of the box.

1.) We've built our entire economy on imaginary funds and let a small sect of humans that are separate from the rest of our civilization run our lives. We have become enslaved, and we love it. We are so "stuff" oriented, and we don't care who we destroy to get it. When we shop at those stores and buy goods we know came from the calloused and bloody hands of children, we are no different then those scum on Wall Street. Somehow, those things (land, water, food etc) that once belonged to the entire human race collectively, have been taken by the rich and powerful, and now we find ourselves begging for scraps. And yet, lol, we have to give more to them when they have sucked us dry, in the form of bailouts. Strange, I thought capitalism meant letting a business fail if it didn't play its cards right. After all, the small businesses have come and gone by the thousands. If then, a handful of corporations have gotten so large and so powerful, that they can actually destroy the entire global economy if we don't continue to write them blank checks, they have created a monopoly, and the very backbone of our financial institution is an illusion.

2.) Candidates, candidates, candidates. In all honesty, how can we as Americans have any hope of change, when the country is split down the center on what change should be? And if the country be undecided on the candidates within 2-3% of each other on election night, anyone here with the strength to acknowledge the truth knows that it will not be decided by the American people.

3.) Obama. What can I say? The fella had my vote until he yielded to AIPAC. Israel is not the only nation in the Middle East, and I'm tired of having my flag tied up with a terrorist country just because Yahweh declared them the chosen "people". That is racial supremacy at its purest, and it is time we opened our eyes and saw it for what it is. Fundamentalist Muslims are no different. But, we are a country obsessed with the values of one monotheistic faith, trying to tare down the values of another monotheistic faith. We are no different then they are. You quit your church Obama. You knelt down under pressure to better your image. You are a disgrace.

4.) Palin. She aught to be ashamed of herself. If I didn't like Hillary before, I can't stand her now. She empowered Palin to be where she is, and she being the submissive obedient little servant of "god", is going to make us all her perfect little children. Let the record show, that the women I know in life, are strong, independent, intelligent, brave, and don't need their husbands to follow them around on stage with McCain, when Cindy is nowhere to be found. She preaches about change and reform..."independant sources of oil" she says. Well, why don't we hear anything about "alternative sources of fuel" from her? "Drill baby drill". How about we start listening to people that have dedicated their entire lives to leaving us a legacy of renewable/cleaner sources of fuel?

5.) The Media. There is no phrasing or words to describe the level of absolute treason they have committed against the American people. They agree to keep quiet about the most corrupt dealings of our government, the amount of people that died in New Orleans during hurricane Katrina, and they keep silent about the sheer amount of death and destruction in the Middle East, because our President said "it's bad for morale". We have successfully turned our backs on those that are laying down their lives for their Commander in Chief's private goals, and we have the audacity to criticize those who question the war. I am proud of our military. I am ashamed of our President. I ask you. Do we really understand what it means to be patriotic, or is it just a word we use to shoot down the opposition?

6.) The Supreme Court. Where are they? What are they doing? Why have they not removed these tyrants? For the love of god, what else does it take? If a president can be brought before them for sexual impropriety, is not an immoral and illegal initiation of war grounds for questioning?

7.) The Congress. Simply put, if Bush's approval ratings are below 30% (and have been for quite some time), how can Congress honestly say they represent The People? It's Congress' job to declare war, impeach the president, and issue subpoenas to investigate the abuse of power within the administration. And yet, they won't impeach a president that took it upon himself to declare war, after lying to us about why we were going in the first place. Not to mention, the Senate Judiciary Committee is willing to issue a subpeona for Bush's cronies (aka Karl Rove), but then sit on their hands when said cronies laugh at those subpoenas. Sen. Patrick Leahy, the way it works is, if a person ignores a subpeona, you issue a warrant for their arrest, like you would any other American. Cabinet members of the administration are not under the umbrella of Executive Privilege. Any lawmaker knows this, why then did they call off the investigation?

8.) Religion. To each his or her own. But I am utterly fed up with churches in this country that are tax-exempt pushing their political agenda across the airwaves. Separation of Church and State wasn't installed so that the government couldn't tell churches what to do. It had to be installed so that churches, couldn't tell the government what to do. May I remind you that contrary to what most have told you in your twisted lie of a history class, this country was not founded by Christians. It was founded predominantly by men of the Enlightenment movement, and they were sick and tired of being told what to do by the church. Separation of Church and State is what protects us from witch burnings. If you think we don't have cause for alarm, just ask yourself what an outrage it would be if we were forced to swear on the Koran in courts, or had federal holidays that celebrated the birth of Heracles, the rise and fall of Lucifer, or we all had to start saying "one nation, under Allah". Bet you wouldn't think we were a nation of religious freedoms anymore would you. We'd better learn to quit trying to run everyone's life, for one day, it might happen to us. Also, I'm tired of hearing "it's ok, God is comming back, and it's all in his hands now". This is absurd. For once in your life, take responsibility for what happens, and quit helping bring about this self-fulfilling (*)(*)(*)(*)ation called the book of Revelation.

Long read, I know. But I posted this, in hopes that somehow, some miracle will take place. I don't enjoy what I'm writing. Frankly I am terrified of what's become of this nation. I do know this however. If we don't wake up and smell the coffee, we are going to be thrown back into a societal ice-age. My wife and I won't have children because of the way things are headed. There's nothing left for me to do now but try and prevent the inevitable from happening. So if I cause a single person to rethink things with this post, my day will have been brightened.

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I've been watching, and listening now, for about 6 months, and I genuinely believe that current events are more horrible than any nightmare.

I'm sure the concept of political distraction is common knowledge. But there is more to it than I think we can grasp; so much going on, I doubt the people pulling the strings are even in sync.

Why can't we simply stay focused? I mean I LOVE the political circus lol. But HOW in the world do civilized human beings justify this sort of behavior? I live on C-SPAN and Youtube these days, and I am thoroughly amazed at the lack of brainpower the average American has devolved to. Well, here's what I have to say about it, and I hope that if even for a second, this will pull someone to think outside of the box.

1.) We've built our entire economy on imaginary funds and let a small sect of humans that are separate from the rest of our civilization run our lives. We have become enslaved, and we love it. We are so "stuff" oriented, and we don't care who we destroy to get it. When we shop at those stores and buy goods we know came from the calloused and bloody hands of children, we are no different then those scum on Wall Street. Somehow, those things (land, water, food etc) that once belonged to the entire human race collectively, have been taken by the rich and powerful, and now we find ourselves begging for scraps. And yet, lol, we have to give more to them when they have sucked us dry, in the form of bailouts. Strange, I thought capitalism meant letting a business fail if it didn't play its cards right. After all, the small businesses have come and gone by the thousands. If then, a handful of corporations have gotten so large and so powerful, that they can actually destroy the entire global economy if we don't continue to write them blank checks, they have created a monopoly, and the very backbone of our financial institution is an illusion.

2.) Candidates, candidates, candidates. In all honesty, how can we as Americans have any hope of change, when the country is split down the center on what change should be? And if the country be undecided on the candidates within 2-3% of each other on election night, anyone here with the strength to acknowledge the truth knows that it will not be decided by the American people.

3.) Obama. What can I say? The fella had my vote until he yielded to AIPAC. Israel is not the only nation in the Middle East, and I'm tired of having my flag tied up with a terrorist country just because Yahweh declared them the chosen "people". That is racial supremacy at its purest, and it is time we opened our eyes and saw it for what it is. Fundamentalist Muslims are no different. But, we are a country obsessed with the values of one monotheistic faith, trying to tare down the values of another monotheistic faith. We are no different then they are. You quit your church Obama. You knelt down under pressure to better your image. You are a disgrace.

4.) Palin. She aught to be ashamed of herself. If I didn't like Hillary before, I can't stand her now. She empowered Palin to be where she is, and she being the submissive obedient little servant of "god", is going to make us all her perfect little children. Let the record show, that the women I know in life, are strong, independent, intelligent, brave, and don't need their husbands to follow them around on stage with McCain, when Cindy is nowhere to be found. She preaches about change and reform..."independant sources of oil" she says. Well, why don't we hear anything about "alternative sources of fuel" from her? "Drill baby drill". How about we start listening to people that have dedicated their entire lives to leaving us a legacy of renewable/cleaner sources of fuel?

5.) The Media. There is no phrasing or words to describe the level of absolute treason they have committed against the American people. They agree to keep quiet about the most corrupt dealings of our government, the amount of people that died in New Orleans during hurricane Katrina, and they keep silent about the sheer amount of death and destruction in the Middle East, because our President said "it's bad for morale". We have successfully turned our backs on those that are laying down their lives for their Commander in Chief's private goals, and we have the audacity to criticize those who question the war. I am proud of our military. I am ashamed of our President. I ask you. Do we really understand what it means to be patriotic, or is it just a word we use to shoot down the opposition?

6.) The Supreme Court. Where are they? What are they doing? Why have they not removed these tyrants? For the love of god, what else does it take? If a president can be brought before them for sexual impropriety, is not an immoral and illegal initiation of war grounds for questioning?

7.) The Congress. Simply put, if Bush's approval ratings are below 30% (and have been for quite some time), how can Congress honestly say they represent The People? It's Congress' job to declare war, impeach the president, and issue subpoenas to investigate the abuse of power within the administration. And yet, they won't impeach a president that took it upon himself to declare war, after lying to us about why we were going in the first place. Not to mention, the Senate Judiciary Committee is willing to issue a subpeona for Bush's cronies (aka Karl Rove), but then sit on their hands when said cronies laugh at those subpoenas. Sen. Patrick Leahy, the way it works is, if a person ignores a subpeona, you issue a warrant for their arrest, like you would any other American. Cabinet members of the administration are not under the umbrella of Executive Privilege. Any lawmaker knows this, why then did they call off the investigation?

8.) Religion. To each his or her own. But I am utterly fed up with churches in this country that are tax-exempt pushing their political agenda across the airwaves. Separation of Church and State wasn't installed so that the government couldn't tell churches what to do. It had to be installed so that churches, couldn't tell the government what to do. May I remind you that contrary to what most have told you in your twisted lie of a history class, this country was not founded by Christians. It was founded predominantly by men of the Enlightenment movement, and they were sick and tired of being told what to do by the church. Separation of Church and State is what protects us from witch burnings. If you think we don't have cause for alarm, just ask yourself what an outrage it would be if we were forced to swear on the Koran in courts, or had federal holidays that celebrated the birth of Heracles, the rise and fall of Lucifer, or we all had to start saying "one nation, under Allah". Bet you wouldn't think we were a nation of religious freedoms anymore would you. We'd better learn to quit trying to run everyone's life, for one day, it might happen to us. Also, I'm tired of hearing "it's ok, God is comming back, and it's all in his hands now". This is absurd. For once in your life, take responsibility for what happens, and quit helping bring about this self-fulfilling (*)(*)(*)(*)ation called the book of Revelation.

Long read, I know. But I posted this, in hopes that somehow, some miracle will take place. I don't enjoy what I'm writing. Frankly I am terrified of what's become of this nation. I do know this however. If we don't wake up and smell the coffee, we are going to be thrown back into a societal ice-age. My wife and I won't have children because of the way things are headed. There's nothing left for me to do now but try and prevent the inevitable from happening. So if I cause a single person to rethink things with this post, my day will have been brightened.

Wake up America...please wake up

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You have to ask yourself while looking in the mirror this question, "who elected and empowered these people."


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We are controlled by the boxes: television, computers, cell phones, cars, offices, cubicles. We live for the box, we are comfortable with the box. When we occasionally step outside the box, we step outside the collective mindset.

And what happens when we speak about life outside the box, we are threatened, we are ridiculed, we are told that we are crazy, that we are living in a fantasy world.

I am stuck inside the box, just like you. This I know. How else would you worry about these things without the box telling you that you SHOULD worry about it. How powerful technology has become that it has caused mankind to lose its ability to imagine. Instead we have technology do the thinking for us.

Got a question? Ask Google. Got a problem? "Talk to your doctor about Cialis". Don't like the way things are going? "Too bad, bend over!"

How utterly powerless we have become to actually do something, because the box provides an escape. "Forget about all your troubles, the box will provide you with endless new worlds and excitement."

This is why no one does anything, because they can't. They don't know how, they don't know how to sit down and observe the real world, in solitude, because the box has implanted itself directly into all of our minds.

The box even has a label for you too! Want to be a part of the box, become a walking advertisement! The box can provide you with identity!

Select from the menu what your identity will be: Liberal, Conservative, Right, Left, Black, White, Brown, Rich, Poor, Sick, Christian, Muslim, Racist, Sexist, Stupid, Smart, Communist, Socialist, Capitalist...

How comforting the box is, we don't have to create our own identity, the box does it for us! How easy it is and how free we are, to pick and choose from all these available options!
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Bravo! Outstanding post! I agree with every point. I share your angst. I am not optimistic about even next week, let alone next year. America is not going to pull out of this for a long, long, long time.

Next up the credit card crunch. Perhaps before Christmas you'll find that your credit cards no longer work. That'll last only a short while but millions of people will be greatly affected. Then the depression by the end of the first quarter of next year. Crime will rise rapidly as jobs are lost by as much as 25% of the nation. Millions will be homeless. It will not be pretty. No political party, no president will be able to stop the cascade of events. Bleak times are ahead.

Washington is not the answer. Hell, they are very much a part of the problem. America will wake up, Juris, but we've already passed the point of no return.
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You are at once very conservative and very liberal in your first point. Can't say I agree with you on the fact that food and water were ever collectively owned, but you definitely have some good points.

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There will be fraud.

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I see quite a few reasons other than that not to vote Obama, economic policy being the main concern.

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Palin's a joke. But on the topic of energy, I don't see why people have adopted a view of it which requires that politicians and the government lead us to a new energy future or that they dictate energy policy to the people. Let people handle energy, not the government: nothing is inherent about energy that adds any reason for government interference in the market.

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Place the blame not on the media, but the people who have the actual control over what the media produces. That would be both the government and the consumers who listen to the media. As for patriotism, it has no real meaning because people can't agree on a meaning for it.

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Definitely problems with the Supreme Court.

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There are more problems with Congress than there are with Bush, Bush being one of the problems.

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Religion is irrational, but dangerous only when given the power to affect people who don't believe. Separation of church and state, or really separation of state and forced morality, is the basis of freedom itself.

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Long read, I know. But I posted this, in hopes that somehow, some miracle will take place. I don't enjoy what I'm writing. Frankly I am terrified of what's become of this nation. I do know this however. If we don't wake up and smell the coffee, we are going to be thrown back into a societal ice-age. My wife and I won't have children because of the way things are headed. There's nothing left for me to do now but try and prevent the inevitable from happening. So if I cause a single person to rethink things with this post, my day will have been brightened.

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I frankly don't see much hope for now. Don't know why you would either....
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1.) We've built our entire economy on imaginary funds
You make a lot of points I agree with, I would just like to comment on the first.

As I see it, our economy is built on growth and credit, but growth is based on cheap energy and cheap commodities like steel, copper, concrete, lumber, etc. While the politicians may be concerned about the credit part of the equation, the current mess is distracting everyone from what I see as the bigger problem - the end of cheap energy.

The GAO states that to meet current demands for government entitlements, the GNP would have to grow at a rate of 10% each year for 75 years in a row. This economy can't pay its bills without growth and it can't grow without cheap energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...federal_budget
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