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Old 09-21-2008, 06:13 PM
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I know, but we have to deal with the fact that the cost of living, and therefore the cost of labor, is very different in other areas of the globe. Companies are going to continue running shops in other countries until the difference in cost of shipping is greater than the difference in the cost of labor.
Indeed. And heaven forbid we ever become too energy efficient or else practically everything will be outsources. Perhaps we should thank big oil for protecting our economies.... hmmm.
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How's the price of oil affecting that?
Ironically, it is probably strengthening our economy, at least where the trade deficit is concerned. I don't know how much it is, though. It all depends on how much of the price of an imported good goes to shipping the item into the country - I don't know the figures off the top of my head...
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Indeed. And heaven forbid we ever become too energy efficient or else practically everything will be outsources. Perhaps we should thank big oil for protecting our economies.... hmmm.
Nah, globalization will run its course and, barring political instabilities, the cost of labor should more or less equalize over the next century or so.
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Nah, globalization will run its course and, barring political instabilities, the cost of labor should more or less equalize over the next century or so.
Sounds nice in theory, but shifts in economic balances often don't happen nice and smoothly. Get ready for a bumpy ride, all orchestrated by those on top of course. One can only hope those on the bottom can stay in their seats and not get blind sided by outsourcing.
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Perhaps. Although the starvation of yourself and your family which is held afloat only by the 2 cents an hour you make could do for some pretty good motivation. In addition, that was only half the equation. Paying other countries with lower environmental standards to pollute and deforest their lands is often a nice cost reduction compared to standards held in the USA.
Those standards serve us well, though, don't they? The first thing I look for in a breakfast cereal is confidence that it won't kill me. Consumer confidence is important to the economy.

And at the point of 2 cents an hour, those 2 cents are dragging you down, not keeping you afloat. You certainly don't have any money to buy Henry Ford's automobiles with, y'know?
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Sounds nice in theory, but shifts in economic balances often don't happen nice and smoothly. Get ready for a bumpy ride, all orchestrated by those on top of course. One can only hope those on the bottom can stay in their seats and not get blind sided by outsourcing.
Hey, over the past 20 years, India has gotten halfway to being a first world country, mainly due to jobs outsourced from the United States and Europe...

Outsourcing is driving China's economic boom.

No reason it can't happen anywhere else.
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But does it work?
Not well, and in the current economy not at all. A third of consumer expenditures, as well as all new expenditures, in this country are satisfied by imports. More consumer spending will not stimulate industrial output at all.

Not to mention most industrial production in this country goes to capital goods production, and intermediate production stages, so supply-side stimulation is what will stimulate demand for homegrown products.
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Not well, and in the current economy not at all. A third of consumer expenditures, as well as all new expenditures, in this country are satisfied by imports. More consumer spending will not stimulate industrial output at all.

Not to mention most industrial production in this country goes to capital goods production, and intermediate production stages, so supply-side stimulation is what will stimulate demand for homegrown products.
Or will supply side only stimulate companies to buy more from oversees to supply? Throw money at the consumer, and they will buy the cheapest product that meets their standard. throw money ad the supplier, and they will supply from whatever the cheapest source is that meets their market's standard. In either case, there is no reason one side will cause more or less importation of products, unless you put the money out there with strings attached.
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