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Old 09-22-2008, 10:21 AM
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Default Dems holding up economic plan.

Dems will do what they can to hold up economic plan. Right now the dems are elated about our economic problems going into the election because it's really the only thing they have going for them even thought they don't have any solution.. They will do what they can to see further economic decline over the next 6 weeks even if it means that investors lose trillions just for their political gain. How sad! It's all about them and to heck with the country.
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Old 09-23-2008, 10:40 AM
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Dems will do what they can to hold up economic plan. Right now the dems are elated about our economic problems going into the election because it's really the only thing they have going for them even thought they don't have any solution.. They will do what they can to see further economic decline over the next 6 weeks even if it means that investors lose trillions just for their political gain. How sad! It's all about them and to heck with the country.
Boy oh boy,I could not disagree with you more,Thank God the Dems are holding things up,Paulson is asking for a BLANK ChECK with no oversight,no accountability,no legal repercussions,no regulations,(SAME as what got us into this mess) and with no guarantee to us taxpayers footing yet another bill,that this will work to stabalize our economy,What the dems are arguing is,without SOME provision in this bailout for us lowly(but the ones who actually keep the wheels of the economy working)Americans,that this 700 BILLION stays in the same bubble of people that have stole our money in the first place.Thats the reason that they give no guarantee,because they don't know if US lowly Americans will go out and spend,if WE don't then in a few weeks or months,we go through this all over again.
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If we only learn one thing it needs to be that we need regulations, but at the same time we can't over regulate everything.
One rule i try to live by is everything is good in moderation. One can go to far in any direction.
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So you're fine with the bail-out bill going through while allowing the executives who made the decisions that screwed us up to take large compensations (on us) and being subject to NO oversight at all.
Yeah, I can see why you'd be mad about that being held up.
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Dems will do what they can to hold up economic plan. Right now the dems are elated about our economic problems going into the election because it's really the only thing they have going for them even thought they don't have any solution.. They will do what they can to see further economic decline over the next 6 weeks even if it means that investors lose trillions just for their political gain. How sad! It's all about them and to heck with the country.
Rubbish. They are moving very quickly and they will be blamed if they get it wrong. This mess will prevent any future congress/administration from doing any of the things voters want/need. The economic recession and fall of the dollar will fuel a whole lot of anger and often anger is expressed irrationally. You should hope and pray that Paulson (former head of Goldman Sacks) doesn't buy those bad securites for more than they are worth -at taxpayer expense.
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Dems will do what they can to hold up economic plan. Right now the dems are elated about our economic problems going into the election because it's really the only thing they have going for them even thought they don't have any solution.. They will do what they can to see further economic decline over the next 6 weeks even if it means that investors lose trillions just for their political gain. How sad! It's all about them and to heck with the country.
Yeah, we should probably do exactly what the Germans did in 1932. During economic crisis, the "congress" back then just gave complete carte blanche to the "executive" to help the country recover. We've already give full military control to W, why not hand over the markets as well. Why, how could we even allow a transfer of executive power in January if still in this crisis. I guess that means that W should stay in office indefinitely to 'help' us. Should we start calling him mein furhur right now, or wait for congress to hand him the keys to everything? I guess it won't be long until he figures out a 'solution' for all those poor people that caused this mess, you know, the liberal jews, homos and criminal blacks.

Be careful by thinking that its in our best interest to do something like this too quickly. If we don't act within the limits of our own democracy, then we won't have a democracy anymore. Thats how the Nazi's took over, as well as other dictatorships.
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All I've heard so far is $700 billion without any plan.........
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All I've heard so far is $700 billion without any plan.........
The "plan" isn't real specific but it puts all the discretion in the hands of the executive branch with no oversight.
Even a lot of the Republicans in congress are upset about that!
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All I've heard so far is $700 billion without any plan.........
This is another Bush disaster. At first, he isn't paying attention (like 9/11 and Katrina), then after disaster strikes, he completely over-responds. It is the Bush legacy - too little at first, too much after it is too late.

More suspiciously, his response is always orchestrated towards the same end - fascist dictatorship. One could say he deliberately does too little, so he has an excuse to do 'too much'. After 9/11, we get the destruction of the Constitution with things like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act. After Katrina, he uses signing statements to absolve the entire government, giving all government authority to the President, making the President an absolute dictator (in the event of a national 'disaster'). Now, 700b from tax-payers?

The Bush administration is the 4th Reich. The Republican party supported them every step of the way.

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This is another Bush disaster. At first, he isn't paying attention (like 9/11 and Katrina), then after disaster strikes, he completely over-responds. It is the Bush legacy - too little at first, too much after it is too late.

More suspiciously, his response is always orchestrated towards the same end - fascist dictatorship. One could say he deliberately does too little, so he has an excuse to do 'too much'. After 9/11, we get the destruction of the Constitution with things like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act. After Katrina, he uses signing statements to absolve the entire government, giving all government authority to the President, making the President an absolute dictator (in the event of a national 'disaster'). Now, 700b from tax-payers?

The Bush administration is the 4th Reich. The Republican party supported them every step of the way.
Well,as of 2pm Nevada time tuesday sept 22,Dodd has turned down first draft of Paulsons proposal,As Unacceptable.There are now gops' that are saying the initial proposal is all for wall street,and nothing for main street,it will get worked out,and OBAMA was brilliant in his steps this morning,mccain not so much.
And other news;What on earth is Palin doing meeting with the leaders of other nations today,OH,photo opt,because the mccain campaign,at FIRST refused reporters,cameras' ok,but reporters refused cameras if no reporters,comprimise,29 seconds to get a pan of the room on cameras'.What a crock of *****.
Did anybody happen to read the article in THE ROLLING STONE magazine on palin and her lies,Oct. issue by Matt Taibbi?Wow,talk about telling it like it is and in no uncertain words.
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