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Old 09-22-2008, 02:15 PM
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Icon5 Aren't we smarter than voting for Obama?

I really don't understand the American people. I know we need change and must have change to move our country forward. We must have change overseen and directed by someone with experience that really believes in changing things in Washington. We are a great country and we must remain great for now and ever more. This is not an easy task. We need a President that has experience in creating change.

We only have two choices in the upcoming election. One that will create change from past experience and a record of creating change and one that is rhetoric for change. Personally, I will rely on experience and record. I do not understand why intelligent Americans will accept the rhetoric rather than the proven track record.

Are you going to accept the record or the rhetoric?

I would like to here your answer!
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I would like to here your answer!
Ya sure you wanna here it?

I don't see why you expect all Americans to agree with your opinion. Personally, I would never in hell support a candidate based on experience. In that whole post, you did not even come close to mentioning an issue or McCain's stance on it, or even Obama's stance.

That whole post is empty rhetoric. You said nothing about why McCain is good or even why Obama is bad.

Well maybe if you think that you are part of a smart minority, against a stupid majority, the majority might not be so stupid, and the minority might.
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Ya sure you wanna here it?
I am sure that was an honest misspelling. The crux of his post was right on target.
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Your entitled to your opinion, but your question is insulting. "Aren't we "smarter" than voting for Obama"?? Political decisions are made on opinions, ideals, etc.....not intelligence. You're implying that smart people would not vote for Obama. Speaking of "smarter", B.O. graduated Harvard law magna cum laude....J.M. gradauted 894 out of 899 at the Naval Academy.
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I really don't understand the American people. I know we need change and must have change to move our country forward. We must have change overseen and directed by someone with experience that really believes in changing things in Washington. We are a great country and we must remain great for now and ever more. This is not an easy task. We need a President that has experience in creating change.

We only have two choices in the upcoming election. One that will create change from past experience and a record of creating change and one that is rhetoric for change. Personally, I will rely on experience and record. I do not understand why intelligent Americans will accept the rhetoric rather than the proven track record.

Are you going to accept the record or the rhetoric?

I would like to here your answer!
american history shows voters don't care about experience so much. JFK, Reagan, Quale w/ bush. Mccain only got a boost with the convention because of the incredibly inexperienced palin. (Mccain also knows experience is not what americans want, thats why he picked her!) which, shouldn't you be concerned about that then? especially given the age and health of mccain? or even if he was assassinated! President Palin? Are you ready for that?!!?

Would you vote for Bush again if he ran? Mccain voted with him 91% of the time. Why vote for that kind of experience if you don't like bush? (even if you do like bush you do realize 60% or so americans think hes a horrible president). its really not at all surprising why people DON'T LIKE mccain.
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I said this more then once. The economy goes in waves. It is much like a sinus with ups and downs.

What the government should do is flatten the ups and downs. This is done by investing (read spending for population) when the economy is going bad. And increase government income (read raise taxes) when it is going well with the economy. This results in a sinus which is much flatter then what is now the case.

However what is inherent the policy of nearly any country is to spend during economic prosperity and restrict spending when the economy is going bad. This actually increases the up and down effect and makes the ups and downs more dramatic.
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I said this more then once. The economy goes in waves. It is much like a sinus with ups and downs.

What the government should do is flatten the ups and downs. This is done by investing (read spending for population) when the economy is going bad. And increase government income (read raise taxes) when it is going well with the economy. This results in a sinus which is much flatter then what is now the case.

However what is inherent the policy of nearly any country is to spend during economic prosperity and restrict spending when the economy is going bad. This actually increases the up and down effect and makes the ups and downs more dramatic.
Don't you mean, "like a sine wave"?
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Had McCain not sold his soul to the neo-cons for their support, I would seriously consider his experience. However, he did sell his soul and I have little doubt that the likes of Rove and Cheney would be pulling his strings if he were elected. Do I want 4 more years of the likes of Rove and Cheney. No way, no how, no McCain.

So my question, aren't we smarter than voting for four more years of neo-cons in the White House?
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You sure you aren't paid by the McCain camp? LOL post and dash gotta love it!
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